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ICAO codes in Ukraine[edit]

Preamble: I am aware this matter is heavily linked to politics, still I absolutely wish to stay out of the muddy waters of politics. I am only trying to get a correct encyclopedia.

As I understand things:

certain territories, formally part of Ukraine, are presently under control of Russia. The Crimea peninsula in particular;
Russia now controlling these areas, it treats them like being Russian, and accordingly assigns Russian ICAO-style codes to airports in the Crimea;
Some of these changes have been reflected on Wikipedia articles, for example the one on Simferopol International Airport where the ICAO code has been changed from UKFF to URFF, with a reference to the Russian AIP;
the authority of Russia over said territories, and their airports, is not universally acknowledged;
the Russian "ICAO" codes are not recognised by ICAO;
The Russian ICAO-style codes are not really ICAO codes, and should not be published as encyclopedical.

So what do we do now?

mention no ICAO codes at all?
mention the real ICAO codes, which are in reality not used by anyone?
mention the Russian pseudo-codes, which are in use though only by one authority, but are not recognised by ICAO?

Again, please let us NOT enter into politics! Jan olieslagers (talk) 09:10, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would say we mention the "russian" codes (they exist so no need to pretend they dont) but just place a footnote saying these have been allocated by the Russian Federation and also mention the ICAO code as again it is still official. MilborneOne (talk) 11:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Having thought over my own question, I am afraid I do not agree. Yes the Russian pseudo-codes do exist, that does not make them encyclopedical. Just because someone says 2+2=5, that doesn't make us support this "fact" on WP, does it? There seems to be no really satisfactory answer, the least unsatisfactory I can think of is to not mention any ICAO code formally, and referring to both real ICAO and fake Russian codes in a footnote. Jan olieslagers (talk) 16:38, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]