Talk:List of basketball players who have scored 100 points in a single game

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Relevancy?[edit]

Is this article really relevant? There aren't that many players who have done this. Clay4president2 (talk) 04:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's the point. If thousands of people could easily score 100 points in a single game of basketball then it wouldn't be worth writing about. -Jrcla2 (talk)(contribs) 18:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kenneth Johnson[edit]

It links to a screen writer. Is that really the same person? And when you look at basketball players with that name there is two. I'm with Clay4president2 in that this page is really not relevant or necessary. 141.155.29.20 (talk) 15:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the names are linked to the wrong people because of a disambiguation problem. The person who went and linked all those things a while back didn't ever bother to double-check to see if what they were linking was the correct thing/person. -Jrcla2 (talk)(contribs) 18:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I unlinked those in the US Highschool area that were either linked to disambig page or the wrong person. I checked disambig pages and could not find the correct person. A new name 2008 (talk) 19:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

I just want to discuss the reliability of certain sources used.

Dubious (probably can't be used)
They all look fishy imo.
  • "Derick Wilfred Omeir Wilson". manfut.org. August 2004. Retrieved August 17, 2010. (in Spanish)
  • "Remembering Dražen Petrović". DockSquadSports.com. May 28, 2008. Retrieved August 15, 2010.
  • "Ginebra's History". ginebraonline.com. 2009. Retrieved August 18, 2010.
  • Lazarevic, Milan (May 18, 2006). "Amazing kid has 178pts for a game". 24sec.net. Retrieved August 16, 2010.
Acceptable (can be used but needs caution)
  • "Athletic Achievements". Archie Talley Productions, Inc. 2010. Retrieved August 17, 2010. - personal site of Archie Talley is okay but need some other supportive sources
  • Bocobo, Christian (2004). Legends and Heroes of Philippine Basketball. Philippines: Christian Bocobo. p. 131. ISBN 0-9763202-0-7. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) - no access to the book, but will accept per AGF
  • Hardcourt: The 2001 Official PBA Annual. Philippines: The Philippine Basketball Association. 2001. p. 146. {{cite book}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help) - no access to the book, but will accept per AGF
Good
  • ESPN, USA Today, LA Times, CBS, SI, NBA, all the newspapers, some books / magazines

—Chris!c/t 03:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that I agree with all of the above assessments except for one. The reference regarding Dražen Petrović I think should be considered reliable for the fact that all of the stats about the achievement can be found in the embedded video (YouTube link here). The video is an officially made bio piece by the NBA and TNT networks. It qualifies as a RS. Jrcla2 (talk) 21:32, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. The info may be correct but the site still looks a little unreliable. I don't think it has "editorial oversight" as described on WP:RS. But I will ask for some opinions at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard when I have time.—Chris!c/t 02:44, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about the National High School Sports Record Book? 132.3.49.80 (talk) 20:50, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One has to wonder about the entries with no date, no opponent, and (sometimes) no team. I can't pull up the purported sources, but if they don't even give a date, they can't be all that comprehensive. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Denise Long[edit]

While editing the 1969 NBA Draft, I just found out that female player Denise Long scored 111 points in a high school game. The sources are from SI[1] and LA Times[2], so it should be reliable. But I haven't had time to research more and find the details about the date, the opponent and the statistics. — Martin tamb (talk) 08:39, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Will add this later.—Chris!c/t 18:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added by User:Jrcla2.—Chris!c/t 21:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad El Akkari[edit]

Mohammad El Akkari needs to be added: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/lebanese-basketball-player-scores-113-points-single-fiba-031513147.html;_ylt=ApDvUdgQ70dsgev1PFnSeeS8vLYF and http://www.fibaasia.net/NewsDetails.aspx?id=2113 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.161.247.198 (talk) 07:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

checkY Done. Thanks for pointing this out. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:30, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corey Fisher[edit]

Am I reading this correctly? He scored these points in some pickup game at the park? Why is this notable? AaronY (talk) 18:12, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was a sanctioned summer league game with professional league and semi-professional league caliber players, so it wasn't "some pickup game" in the traditional sense. It also is notable because of WP:GNG since there was ample coverage of its event. Sportscenter even did a story on it the next day. Jrcla2 (talk) 18:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's also obvious that all you read was the caption to the thumbnail. Please actually read the article before making snap judgments about the notability concerns. Jrcla2 (talk) 17:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Table format[edit]

In sections United States and International, anyone ever thinking about expanding the “Notes” column so the rest of the row doesn't have unnecessary space open, or collapsing or condensing the notes? 71.146.10.213 (talk) 03:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can't expand the notes section any more than it is because there is character restriction for all of the other columns too. This article is best viewed on higher resolution monitors. As far as collapsing the notes section, that might be worth looking into. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Arizin[edit]

I removed Paul Arizin from the college entries. Unlike every other entry on the page, there is no date, opponent, or even exact point total provided. Two references were cited ([1][2]), but the first is anecdotal, and the second doesn't mention Arizin scoring 100 points in a game at all. I think more concrete corroborating evidence is needed before Arizin can be reinserted.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.10.213 (talk • contribs) 03:51 20 May 2012 ‎(UTC)

Both sources mention it, you just didn't see it. The fact that no specific number or opponent can be verified does not make it untrue and/or non-notable. Two reliable, independent sources have mentioned it; I'm re-inserting it. Jrcla2 (talk) 06:44, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am also skeptical of the Arizin claim, but for a different reason. An obituary article of Arizin published on Villanova's athletics web site goes into several paragraphs of detail about a game on Feb. 12, 1949 in which Arizin scored 85 points in a 117-25 victory over Navy Air Material Center. That game was documented contemporaneously in the national press (see [3] for an article published on Feb. 15, 1949, which confirms the date, score, and number of points scored by Arizin). But nothing is said in the obituary about Arizin ever scoring 100 points in a game. I see that there were references to Arizin having done so in coverage of Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point game in 1962 (Arizin was one of Chamberlain's teammates on the Philadelphia Warriors), but no further detail is available. Incidentally, Sports Illustrated published an article about Jack Taylor's scoring 138 points and discussing how Frank Selvy and Bevo Francis's lives were affected by their 100-point game achievements and mentioning a few other 100-point feats at other levels. Arizin is never mentioned in the article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:39, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
With Associated Press in 1962 reporting it, and The Milwaukee Journal mentioning it again 25 years later, I'm inclined to believe it. A 2003 book also republished the 1962 AP article without noting any possible errors. A Philadelphia Inquirer article in 2012 mentions Arizin's 100 again. A stronger case would be made if a source refutes it and specifically calls it an error. Otherwise, it could also be the case that they don't mention it because NCAA doesn't recognize it, not that it never happened. Since sources are not contradictory, I think it is OK. It may all theoretically be based off of an incorrect 1962 AP article, but it would be WP:OR to speculate on what is a majority view that it happened.—Bagumba (talk) 09:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Different independent sources claim that Arizin did score 100 points. That is enough for me to support its inclusion.—Chris!c/t 23:57, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
References
  1. ^ "The Night of the Century". The New York Times. The New York Times Company. Retrieved December 9, 2010.
  2. ^ Wolfley, Bob (March 1, 1987). "THE GAME and Wilt still loom large" (PDF). The Milwaukee Journal. Retrieved December 9, 2010. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Iowa H.S. Girls[edit]

I added Lynne Lorenzen to the table because I knew about it, but in searching the references to find the one with the most data, http://www.luckyshow.org/basketball/Iowa6x6Complete.htm has six more people to add (including Denise Long mentioned above (111pt game and 100pt game)) Other source for Lynne is here: http://data.desmoinesregister.com/hall-of-fame/single.php?id=406 132.3.49.82 (talk) 20:28, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit dispute, input/vote needed[edit]

Dispute summary: When notating how many times a player has scored 100 points, if more than once, the use of "(2)", or "(3)", etc. is used. The dispute is where to list those numbers: should the "(2)" be next to the most recent date of the two occurrences, regardless of where that occurrence physically falls on the table? Or should it be further down on the list next to the second table listing, regardless of the games' dates?

The player in question is Marin Ferenčević ([4][5][6][7][8][9]).

Votes / comments[edit]

Proposal #1: Put the "(2)" physically further down on the list, not accounting for the dates of the occurrences

  1. Support, as the editor in direct dispute of Proposal #2. Also noting that literally every single basketball list-article on Wikipedia in WP:BBALL, WP:CBBALL, and WP:NBA uses this long-standing precedent. 71.56.244.35 (talk) 02:01, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal #2: Put the "(2)" next to the more recent of the occurrences, regardless of table positioning

Discussion[edit]

If the list is sorted by points, it's strange to list the number by another sort key, date. There's two people at List_of_basketball_players_who_have_scored_100_points_in_a_single_game#Collegiate, Francis and Taylor, and the number listed next to them is not chronological. At List of NCAA Division I men's basketball players with 60 or more points in a game, the list is sorted by points, and the number is not chronological. On the other hand, an FL like List of Major League Baseball players with a .400 batting average in a season is sorted by date, and the numbers there are chronological. Personally, I find these numbers to clutter the list, and would just remove them. Barring that, make them consistent with the order in which the list is sorted (which is cuurently by points).—Bagumba (talk) 06:06, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would second Bagumba above and say in a list such as this, adding a "number of occurrences in the list" just clutters it up without adding a lot of value. I would recommend taking it out. It's easy enough to see how many times someone appears in the list by sorting the table by name. If it must be included, I agree that it should be consistent with the default order of the list. CThomas3 (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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