Talk:List of colonial churches in Mexico City

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Royal Convent of Jesús y María[edit]

@BrugesFR: FYI, I see a listing for Royal Convent of Jesús y María and want to make you aware of the article at Parish of Jesús María and Our Lady of Mercy. Thanks for all your work here and on related articles. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:18, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Another Believer: thank you for your comment. the truth is still missing many churches that are included in the article. it's bad I don't have time to edit Wikipedia like I used to, but I'll do it from time to time. you're right with the two churches i will include--BrugesFR (talk) 16:39, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Church of Santa Inés[edit]

@BrugesFR: Another FYI: There are articles for both Convent of Santa Inés and Church of Santa Inés. Not sure which should be mentioned here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Another Believer: it's a copy of each other. the real name is Convent of Santa Inés, so if you can take care of deleting the Church of Santa Inés. Thanks.--BrugesFR (talk) 16:44, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
BrugesFR, To be clear, these articles are not copies. One is about the historical convent and the other is about the present-day church. But, I admit, I don't know enough about these topics, nor do I speak Spanish, so I'd rather someone else decide whether or not these should be merged. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:47, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Another Believer:yes, but it's the same church, having two separate articles makes people unaware of the description of the article or its history because they only see one article. plus they're stubs. there's no need to keep them apart. Have to be merged them with the name of the convent because it was initially a convent, no matter if it was confiscated. it has been used as a convent.--BrugesFR (talk) 16:54, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Another Believer: still missing a lot of churches to be included, so that if you want to watch the article with the time--BrugesFR (talk) 16:56, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Another Believer: Since you like this theme, I explain you why there are so many churches in Mexico City, apart from its important location, the metropolitan area grew in the 20th century enormously in terms of population, adhering to a lot of towns close to the city. in other words, the churches of the colonial city are only those located in the center. the rest are also colonial but town churches. Miss like a quarter to add to the list--BrugesFR (talk) 20:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I will include this info in the article--BrugesFR (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Lis of colonial churches in Mexico City" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Lis of colonial churches in Mexico City. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 April 30#Lis of colonial churches in Mexico City until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Regards, SONIC678 19:42, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Introductory paragraph[edit]

The introductory paragraph makes a serious historical and cultural error when it speaks of the original indigenous villages that were around Lake Texcoco and on a number of its islands as former "suburbs" of Mexico City, the former México-Tenochtitlan.

Before the arrival of the Spanish, there were about half a dozen altepetls, city-states around Lake Texcoco populated by various Nahuatl-speaking peoples. Each altepetl had numerous villages subordinated to its central city. The Mexica of Mexico-Tenochtitlan, on an island in the lake, had become the dominant power in 1428. They allowed the other altepetls to continue to govern their subordinate villages, but required that they pay tribute and supply laborers and warriors to Mexico-Tenochtitlan.

When the Spanish conquered the Mexica, they kept the Mexica regional governmental structure, simply renaming the altepetls as municipios, the basic Spanish unit of territorial rule. For flood protection, the Spanish also began draining Lake Texcoco, but the newly-created land was used for farming and cattle raising, not settlement. After Mexican independence from Spain was achieved in 1821, a small Distrito Federal, Federal District, was created, encompassing what had been Mexico City (the former Tenochtitlan), which remained a municipio within it. The other municipios in the Valley were placed within the new state of Mexico.

After the Mexican-American War, the Federal District was greatly enlarged to encompass most of the municipios in the Valley of Mexico, but they were not incorporated into the municipio of Mexico City, which remained only the small, central area and one municipio among many in the District. Only after the Mexican Revolution, in 1928, were these independent municipios merged into delegaciones which were subdivisions of the Federal District fully subject to its government. Officially, there was no longer a municipio of Mexico City, which was incorporated into a Central Department along with adjacent municipios.

In 2017, the Federal District was changed into the autonomous Ciudad de México, Mexico City, and the delegaciones became alcaldías (literally, mayoralties, but not municipios. They are more like the boroughs of New York City.). Mexico City has a status of autonomous internal self-rule, equal to that of a Mexican state, but is not a state. It is a unique political federal entity.

Thus was the long and complex history by which originally indigenous altepetls, city-states, and their subordinate villages were incorporated into Mexico City. They were never suburbs. Chilangabacho (talk) 21:50, 23 May 2021 (UTC) [1] [2] [3][reply]

References

  1. ^ The Aztecs Under Spanish Rule, by Charles Gibson, Stamford University Press, 1964
  2. ^ Government of the Federal District. "History of Mexico City" (in Spanish). Archived from the original on 19 December 2009. Retrieved 27 December 2009.
  3. ^ "Federal District is now officially Mexico City: The change brings more autonomy for the country's capital". Mexico News Daily. 30 January 2016. Retrieved 11 July 2017.