Talk:List of compositions by Cécile Chaminade

Why is this not in a table?

I am not sure who the original person was who put this list together, but the fact that they glossed over putting the information into a chart is beyond me. I will begin working on the step that they so callously overlooked. Gongfong2021 (talk) 22:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

The original articles was moved over from the base article I believe. WP is a collaborative effort, they didn't 'gloss' over it, they probably either didn't have the time or inclination to do more than create the standalone article. I notice JohnDVandevert has started making a table I assume inspired by this post but it lacks in at the minimum instrumentation and a notes section. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 12:16, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, possibly adding the W numbers from Cécile Chaminade:A Bio-Bibliography would be a good addition as well. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 00:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

AH! You're right! Thank you for the clarification, that's incredibly helpful. Please feel free to tailor what I have created, as I am certainly not the authority. Gongfong2021 (talk) 04:43, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

The Voracious Wikipedian in: Taïaut, une Symphonie Parisienne Oubliée en si mineur, W 393

Prélude et Fugue
My connection with classical music came from an early age but still the question "what kind of classical music do you like" has always accompanied me throughout life until the moment I decided to look for answers. The first thing I needed to know was what Salon Music was because small pieces and musical miniatures for me at least made more sense than symphonies and concertos or even old dance "passos". It was because of Mussorgsky and his Pictures at an Exhibition that the starting point was set. Like this I discovered a short period of time of about 50 years between 1875 and 1925 when music became too modern for my musical taste more Russian than anything else and absolutely no German musical roots (too harsh for me). It was then just Grieg left and a certain Debussy and his French music that I could never quite understand. It was necessary to get to know Germaine Tailleferre to be able to understand the vagueness, that which is imprecise, the elevation of feelings that overflow from this one who now writes to you. I passed by Ravel and Boulanger until I found Cécile Chaminade and her "effeminate" salon music (sic). The interesting thing about this all is that through Chaminade I found the wonderful Mélanie Bonis whose list of compositions I plan to expand someday the way I did here.

Interlude
I can even say that this tally-ho was quite a deep dive into Cécile's career and music (we are already intimate) not only because I had the opportunity to explore all her work, translate their titles, a better understanding about what she wrote; but I also listened to almost everything she created and every information about her concerts, musical structures and forms, flute, choir, ballet and singing, "dedicatée", dates of creation, publication, musical genres and much more. Yes, I disliked Backer Grøndahl-type vocal music until I listened to songs like Chanson de neige and Écri. Chaminade's music is simple and yet delicate enough for me to like it. She had a strong musical personality capable of creating large works rather than simply writing another étude or barcarrolle. Her Opp. 21, 35, 37, 40, 123, 126, 163 and so many others are tunes that I wil never forget.

I really did everything I could (I made a mistake while editing once I was too tired of reading and researching about her compositions for 16 hours a day for a whole week so that it took me 10 long days to go back to her music again) to find anything about her compositions and describe them as clear as possible not only because of the information contained in this Wikitable but most specially because of the amount of information collected and displayed in an interesting form of reading. That is, knowing what you're doing and where you're going.

Finalle
One more thing I would like to say about my contribution here. I was reading the talk page and what two guys said about this list being incomplete or not-finished yet. Maybe the guy who left the work half way from being finished wanted others to take part in this work. Well, about six months have passsed and I still haven't seen anything from anyone so... (two tables to complete and one huge notes section to create this time made me really "cuckoo"!). Well, composers lists need to be more than just graphics or a tabula where information is laid out in a way that it becomes understandable to readers. They must contain text, and text here is the life story of the composer and her compositions. To be able to guide the reader to a better understanding of the events that surrounded her life and how her compositions came to be. Read the Notes section to understand what I mean, it's all connected (it's petty much like trekking through warmholes checking distant memory-alpha banks in the same galatic charming-ade section... kkkkkk you think I am crazy ?) and check the external links if necessary. Listen to her songs while you look up the information you need amid passages of her life and career. The best will be when you'll add complementary information where I could find none. Checking the Keys of her compositions, or complete the "puzzle", would be something quite useful for readers like you and me too (there are scores for high or low voices in different keys). Oh well, it would have been interesting to move Dedicatées and Libretists out of the Notes section and alocate them in a proper Wikitable maybe but I guess that's something I'll leave for later. Hope this work helps !

A bis and a kissss from your friendly gnome Krenakarore ^TK 10:51, 13 March 2022 (UTC)