Talk:List of extinct animals of the British Isles

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Citations[edit]

There is a clear lack of citations in this article which is making it near to in useable. The No.1 priority has to be getting accurate citations in especially for animals which don't have their own article. PascalsCalculatingHamster (talk) 13:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neanderthals[edit]

Should Neanderthals be included on this list? Pro66 (talk) 16:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so - first, because this is supposed to be a page about animals in the British Isles that became extinct after the speration from continental Europe c.8000BC - even though the page lists several animals (eg the woolly mammoth) that became extinct before the separation according to the info on the list - and Neanderthals became extinct as a distinct human group in Europe between 40,000-25,000BC ([1]), 13,000 years or more before the separation; second, because in fact everyone whose ancestors left Africa c.70,000 years ago has around 2% Neanderthal DNA ^[1] - so to that extent they're not 'extinct' anyway - and third, I wouldn't class them as 'animals', as they're 'humans'. Of course, humans are animals biologically speaking, but not in general discourse.

--Markaeologist (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

Tweaks and source[edit]

Some of the dates don't agree with the articles on the given species. This book might help: Extinctions and Invasions: A social history of British fauna PatHadley (talk) 13:18, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bears[edit]

Why no mention of bears? Perhaps there is a good reason, but I came to this page looking to find out when bears became extinct in the UK, so it would be useful to say something about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.4.106 (talk) 17:38, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few species missing from this list; bears, moose and beaver were all found at some point living on the land that is currently part of the UK, but none of them are on this list. --Connelly90 09:21, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Elk[edit]

Fauna of Scotland states that "elk...lasted until about 1300" citing Hull, Robin (2007) Scottish Mammals. Edinburgh. Birlinn. ISBN 1-84158-536-X. This article states 1500 BC. The disparity is huge; which is correct? Mutt Lunker (talk) 20:22, 29 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Elk has not been reintroduced to Britain. Three animals were imported from Sweden and kept in an enclosure on the Alladale estate on a trial basis, they are not there now. You may as well list any other zoo animal. Quetzal1964 (talk) 06:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Boars?[edit]

Should the wild boar be added to the mammels list? Though it has been accidentally re-introduced in the last few decades, it was extinct in the British Isles for several hundred years. How authoritative this website about boar in Britain is I have no idea, but the idea that boar were extinct by AD1200 or thereabouts seems pretty reasonable. ^[1] --Markaeologist (talk) 13:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.britishwildboar.org.uk/index.htm?britain.htm

Walrus?[edit]

Walruses are occassionally seen off the Shetland and Orkney Islands. So seems odd to list them as extinct in the British Isles? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-21647421 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChilternGiant (talk • contribs) 23:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pelican?[edit]

A pelican was seen recently in Cornwall http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-36259924 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChilternGiant (talk • contribs) 23:20, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The pelican recorded in Bronze and Iron age remains was the Dalmatian Pelican Pelecanus crispus and not the Great White Pelican Pelecanus oncrotalus ^[1] Quetzal1964 (talk) 20:09, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Yalden D.W. & Albarella U. (2009), The History of British Birds, Oxford University Press, ISBN 978-019-958116-0

Wolves[edit]

1166 for wolves in Wales in surely too early, if they were still found in Shropshire and Herefordshire around 1280-1300 (Edward I/Corbet campaign)? Walshie79 (talk) 06:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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B.C., B.C.E., or B.P.?[edit]

Something is really bugging me about this article. That is that the dates from before A.D. or C.E. and listed in three different ways on the article. They ways the dates are listed are B.C. (Before Christ), B.C.E. (Before Common Era) and B.P. (Before Present). There really should be consistency when it comes to listing dates. What would be the most appropriate date list for this article? --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For now, I changed all dates from before Year 1 to B.P. for consistency. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 22:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/

[2] ttp://www.britishwildboar.org.uk/index.htm?britain.htm

[Yalden_&_Albarella-3] Yalden D.W. & Albarella U. (2009), The History of British Birds, Oxford University Press, ISBN 978-019-958116-0

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