Talk:List of feature films with gay characters

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Note to Editors[edit]

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Films removed from list for lacking reliable sources[edit]

When reliable sources are found that verify the inclusion of gay characters, the film (row) can be re-added in the list:
| 2022 | La Frontière | Oliver | JP Morin | Oliver has been unhappily married to a woman named Chris. They split up when Oliver meets Tommy and falls in love with him. (Tommy is bisexual and in an open relationship with his female partner Greta.) | France | |-
Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 08:29, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Lighthouse[edit]

Despite the film having explicit details of male sexuality, it's still hard to debate whether The Lighthouse should be put in this category. Any opinions? Runningman2027 (talk) 22:43, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are there sources that describe one or more characters as being gay? That's what all films depend on to be included in the list. We don't decide if a film merits inclusion because we think it does. If you cannot find sources to verify the "gay", the film doesn't belong in the list. Pyxis Solitary (yak). L not Q. 08:14, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting the list[edit]

The list is organized by subsections for decades and years, and I don't have a problem finding films in it, but I guess it's time to split the list as:

List of feature films with gay characters: 1900–1999

and

List of feature films with gay characters: 2000–present

Anyone else in on it? Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 08:37, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs. Doubtfire[edit]

Please, remind me which character is gay inside that film... Sebastián Arena... 21:58, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The cited source (a review by Roger Ebert) mentions Frank:

But soon the plot machinery begins to creak. His wife Miranda (Sally Field) can no longer endure his little eccentricities, like hiring a private zoo for their son's birthday party. She files for divorce. The judge gives Daniel visitation rights only on Saturdays. And so he turns in desperation to his gay brother, Frank (Harvey Fierstein), a makeup expert, who helps disguise him as the redoubtable Mrs. Doubtfire, a younger but not slimmer Miss Marple.

However, although the article mentions Jack, that name NEVER appears in Ebert's article... Historyday01 (talk) 12:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As pointed out above, the source (https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/mrs-doubtfire-1993) identifies "Frank (Harvey Fierstein)" as being "gay".
I recommend that you read the cited sources before wondering which character is gay in a film. The lists for feature films with lesbian / gay / bisexual / transgender characters must include published sources and the sources must explicitly verify the L or G or B or T (i.e. if a character is a gay man, the source must say "gay" or "homosexual" for the character; the term "queer" is not good enough because "queer" is non-specific and can be interpreted to mean bisexual, non-binary, pansexual, etc.).
As for the Jack character, a source needs to be added that confirms he is gay. Without it the name has to be removed from the list. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 21:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right, I agree with that. There need to be reliable sources proving a character's identity. Historyday01 (talk) 19:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

done. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 11:28, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]