Talk:List of primary local government units of the Philippines

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Original research[edit]

Does this article violate WP:No original research policy? Who uses the term "primary local government unit"? Are there WP:Third-party sources that use the term? I've never heard it used though I understand the concept. Beyond that, even if it is not original research, is this an necessary article? Doesn't it just duplicate information available in the provinces and city articles? --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 11:03, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: I agree the term does not appear to be official, although I do not know an appropriate term. The Philippine provinces article has a list, but from what I notice, there are those who prefer the statistics of independent cities separate from provinces, and this list article is the only way of showing it in one sortable table.

Although one observation about the article is that it would be very tedious to maintain with the separate rank numbers, especially if the latest census is released. Using a single ranking column in a separate table aligned to the left of the data table is much better. Besides, since the article is about "primary" LGUs, the ranking should already be combined. People can just go to the provinces and/or cities lists if they want to see the separate rankings. Removing the ranking columns will allow more space to add more useful data (such as area and density in both km² and sqkm, and % share by population). Sanglahi86 (talk) 15:55, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The term doesn't need to be an official government term. It can be a common term. (Wikipedia does prefer WP:Common Names to official names.) But we shouldn't be inventing terms. We shouldn't be creating our own lists. Wikipedia is not a directory (WP:NOTDIRECTORY). The test is WP:Notability. If people find this info helpful but it is not notable or there is no third-party source that determines what's on the list, is there another place for it? Would Wikidata work? --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 02:38, 20 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This does not violate OR. OR is "material for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." This list is well referenced and it does not provide any analysis or synthesis of the data. Furthermore, it almost follows the same breakdown of provinces and cities as the 2015 Population Counts list, produced by Philippine Statistics Authority. The only difference is that Independent Component Cities are separated out here. And it is actually better than the list at Provinces of the Philippines because HUC are not part of the provinces. The rankings of provinces greatly changes if the HUC are not included. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:46, 24 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of ranks columns?[edit]

The ranks columns makes and will make updating the table tedious. Should we remove them, also to reduce the article size? Besides, we can do a multi-sort by holding down the Tab key. Sanglahi86 (talk) 13:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have done a lot of updating of this page, and yes, it is very tedious! By sorting the tables we can always see the top places, but if the rank columns are removed, it is hard to know the rank further down the table. If we decide to remove them, the separate rank column that this article had until this revision should be restored. Regards, -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it seems the static column is still the best available solution to make the table more dynamic and less prone to erroneous rankings. I will be restoring that format along with some formatting fixes. Kindly revise as you see fit. Thanks. Sanglahi86 (talk) 18:11, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]