Talk:Magic in Middle-earth/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: The Most Comfortable Chair (talk · contribs) 09:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I will be reviewing this. — The Most Comfortable Chair 09:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking this on. I guess you know that I respond promptly and am used to working through any issues with the reviewer. Looking forward to it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:24, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Appearances[edit]

  • Could we use Tom Bombadil as an example too? He might not be significant for the overall narrative, but he holds great symbolic importance.
  • OK, done.
  • "to help rescue Middle-earth" — Perhaps "to intervene in the affairs of Middle-earth" (as described in Wizards (Middle-earth)) or something similar would be more appropriate, considering their complexities.
  • Done.
  • "Palantíri" — Linked twice and inconsistently italicized; latter for the lead too.
  • Fixed.
  • "Saruman"; "Gandalf"; "Orthanc" — Overlinked.
  • Fixed.

Analysis[edit]

Two kinds of magic[edit]

  • "Mageia" — Is there a positive example of Mageia that can be used here, like there is one for "Goeteia".
  • Mentioned and linked.

Enchantment[edit]

  • "The attractive enchantment of the Elves might then seem entirely perfect; but in the Tolkien scholar Verlyn Flieger's view, this is not so." — "The attractive enchantment of the Elves might then seem entirely perfect" is a little subjective unless that could be attributed to Flieger's views, in which case, the sentence could be rephrased more plainly and formally.
  • Edited.

Deceptive in use[edit]

  • What do you think about using "Deception" as the heading instead?
  • That it would be misleading. The stones cannot be used to provide false images, straightforward deception; but on the other hand the appearances they provide, while in a sense truthful, are always deceptive, as the section explains.

Wish-fulfillment[edit]

  • "Caitlin Vaughn Carlos" — Describe who Caitlin Vaughn Carlos is.
  • Done.
  • "File:Hunting Horn MET sf17-190-379s1.jpg" — This isn't Merry's magic horn, but a 15th century hunting horn. Unless the magic horn was based off this, I doubt if it is relevant.
  • Indeed, it couldn't be as it doesn't exist in this world. I've removed the image for now.

References[edit]

Primary[edit]

  • Reference 8, "Carpenter 1981 Letters, #131" — Has unutilized "}}".
  • Fixed.

The article is comprehensive, and the quality of prose is magical. It was a great joy to read and review this article, as it always is with your works related to Tolkien, Chiswick Chap. — The Most Comfortable Chair 08:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Glad you liked it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Final[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it well written?
    A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
    B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
  2. Is it verifiable with no original research?
    A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
    B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
    C. It contains no original research:
    D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
    B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
  4. Is it neutral?
    It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
  5. Is it stable?
    It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
  6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    The prose flows beautifully. An informative and well-researched article, it meets the criteria. Thank you for your time and dedication that went into revamping the article. — The Most Comfortable Chair 04:57, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]