Talk:Mardijker people

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Unable to verify information[edit]

I was unable to find any reference to the Mardijker people in the Oxford English Dictionary, Encyclopedia Britannica, Worldmark Encyclopedia of Cultures and Daily Life, Encyclopedia of the Peoples of the World, Oxford Reference Online, ProQuest, Thompson Gale Powersearch, New York Times Historical Backfile.

Seashunt 02:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a very quick mention of them in Ricklef's History of Modern Indonesia (p. 85 in the 2nd edition). This book is widely regarded as perhaps the best modern history written about Indonesian. says they were free Portuguese-speaking Indonesian soldiers. Context was the First Java War of Succession (1704 - 1708) Apart from that, you are right, sources are pretty thin. Merbabu 02:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am quite certain that the Portuguese church Taylor refers to, the "Black church", in Batavia was in fact Reformed Protestant, not Catholic. Although the Mardijker tended to be of Indo-Portuguese Catholic background, I believe they were mostly (at least outwardly) conforming Protestants in Batavia--and indeed they had to be, since, at least early on, Catholics were not permitted to worship openly under the Dutch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.224.72.131 (talk) 16:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguesse descent?[edit]

There must be some sort of Portuguesse descent among all of this people, considering that they were taken from Malacca and are taken as war captive? There were recorded of 200 marriage of history in Malacca by the Portuguese and many taken by the Dutch are Portuguesse speaking people, though they don't seem to identify who among these people are descendant of the Portuguese. There aren't many Portuguese Eurasians left in Malaysia (or so they claimed to be the descendant while being possible that they are actually slaves of the Portuguesse who spoke the language), i have visited Kampung Portugis in Malacca and the population didn't look very Eurasians to me, and they looked more Moluccanish or Indianish rather than Eurasians. But then it's almost hard to tell when they have been intermarrying with other Asian while carrying believes that they are descendant of the Portuguese. I met some people in Kampung Tugu's church who also claimed to have Portuguese descent. The Dutch also promote Protestantism which meant that they have to abandon their Portuguese way of life and believes.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.254.212.34 (talk) 03:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation needed[edit]

If someone knows, the IPA pronunciation is needed as it's not obvious.WisDom-UK (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]