Talk:Margaret (2011 film)

Headlines[edit]

Headlines. Erik (talk) 16:26, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article badly needs more references. At the moment, the entire 'production' section is unreferenced; there are the two links above, but that's not enough to support it, given that it contains controversial claims about living people. If references aren't added, the whole section should be removed. Robofish (talk) 00:06, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As it turns out, that entire section is lifted from the LA Times article nearly verbatim. I've removed it for the time being. Might try a re-write if I have time. 67.6.73.83 (talk) 01:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Damon at the premiere[edit]

What kind of idiotic info is that? Mayby you should make a complete list of guests and post it on Wikipedia... Delete it, please.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.36.135.205 (talk) 08:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lawsuits?[edit]

I have read several places that the release of this movie was delayed because of multiple lawsuits. These lawsuits have not been resolved but the movie was eventually released in theaters in 2011 and on DVD in 2012. Yet nowhere is the nature of the litigation explained. Is there a legal problem with explaining the issues of the lawsuit? If not, should they be mentioned in this article? Mellie107 (talk) 16:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

I noticed that the IPA transcription of the pronunciation are in British English, whereas the film (and its characters) use American English. I don't really know the guidelines for this kind of thing, which I'm sure have been long labored over. Should it be transcribed in American English the way the characters themselves would speak it? 71.198.222.71 (talk) 04:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, IP editor here. When I inserted it, I didn't even know IPA transcriptions differ with geography (I assumed phonemes were relative within each accent), so won't be offended should you decide to change/remove it. Sorry I can't be more helpful. 82.26.152.34 (talk) 19:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The characters in the film speak American English, but when the title "Margaret" is spoken by Matthew Broderick (the English teacher), it is accented on the third syllable because it's a poem by Gerard Manley Hopkins. Mathew5000 (talk) 05:36, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Title?[edit]

Why is this film called "Margaret"? It looks like there is a minor character with this name but she doesn't figure into the plot of the movie, as least as it is described here. If you have seen this film and can include a sentence explaining this, I'm sure it would help future readers who are left with the same question. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 14:58, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the film comes from a poem called "Spring and Fall" by Gerard Manley Hopkins addressed to a grieving subject named Margaret: "Ah! as the heart grows older/ it will come to such sights colder/... /It is the blight man was born for/ It is Margaret you mourn for." Mikething (talk) 00:41, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Plot[edit]

Who really cares, but the plot section says that she has an abortion after a sexual encounter with Caije (the Matt Damon character). It's pretty clear that there was no sexual encounter (beyond a kiss), and the abortion was an invention. But maybe we shouldn't change it, these plot sections are entertaining when they're wrong as well as pointless. Mikething (talk) 23:42, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should drop the attitude and watch the movie again. They slept together. Antinomic (talk) 23:56, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the extended cut on DVD (185 minutes) it is made very clear in dialogue that they had intercourse after kissing, and that Lisa subsequently has the abortion (she takes a home pregnancy test, and then subsequently is shown in the clinic). I don't know which version @Mikething: saw. Mathew5000 (talk) 05:34, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oops looks like I was wrong, apologies. Wld love to see the extended cut, it's a great film. +Hey, I'm not allowed to have an opinion about wikipedia plot summaries? They're usually just embarrassing. Mikething (talk) 14:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Legacy/Decade Reevaluation[edit]

The extended cut especially has seen a much greater critical groundswell, and I believe it made a lot of critics' Best of the Decade lists. A new section should be added to cover its new reputation. CVance1 (talk) 15:34, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I think the article has gone a bit too far into the other direction. I think it is overstating the film's reputation, the language as written right now seems to be more of a synthesis than anything actual sources say.