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Some sources. Most are substantial, maybe a couple aren't.

Hausman, Bernice L. (2000). "Do Boys Have to Be Boys? Gender, Narrativity, and the John/Joan Case". NWSA Journal. 12 (3): 114–138. ISSN 1040-0656.
Beemyn, Genny (2013). "A Presence in the Past: A Transgender Historiography". Journal of Women's History. 25 (4): 113–121. doi:10.1353/jowh.2013.0062.
Latham, J R (March 2016). "Trans men's sexual narrative-practices: Introducing STS to trans and sexuality studies". Sexualities. 19 (3): 347–368. doi:10.1177/1363460715583609.
Vipond, Evan (2 January 2019). "Becoming Culturally (Un)intelligible: Exploring the Terrain of Trans Life Writing". a/b: Auto/Biography Studies. 34 (1): 19–43. doi:10.1080/08989575.2019.1542813.

Urve (talk) 00:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember whether it is in one of the sources I mentioned, but at least one article refers to Mario Martino as a trans woman author, in a list of (actual) trans woman memoirists. Lol. I suppose this goes to show that academia is not all that it makes itself to be. Urve (talk) 00:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Urve: Wow, thank you so much for those sources! I'm sorry I probably don't have access to many of them so I won't be able to add them, but they are much better than the ones I used here!

(But the fact that one of them refers to Martino as a trans woman doesn't surprise me one bit...) –Bangalamania (talk) 09:30, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, @Bangalamania:. I left this on the LGBT talk, but check out WP:Library and you may have access to them. Otherwise, leave me a message on my talk page tomorrow and I can send them via email (if you don't know how to do email through wikipedia, just ask there). Urve (talk) 09:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]