Talk:Mark DeRosa/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

I was going to wait until Clint Courtney had been promoted, but I've been going "why do I know that name" for so long – turns out we have the same alma mater! — GhostRiver 21:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• Add (MLB) after first instance of Major League Baseball
• "However, he also played baseball," → "He also played baseball for the Quakers," (with those precise WLs)
• Link shortstop and utility player
• How do you play over 1,000 games as a utility player and somehow never hit center field?
  • Too slow, maybe? I'm sure there was some reason. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:36, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

High school and college

• "Descended from Italian immigrants, his parents were father Jack and mother Mickey." → "His parents Jack and Mickey were the descendants of Italian immigrants."
  • Changed, except I left father and mother in because I was having trouble telling how they were related when I first read their names! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 12:41, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
• Link "Italian immigrants" to Italian diaspora
• It looks like DeRosa's father played for the Fairleigh Dickinson Knights
• Ok, I know I'm going to be incredibly annoying, but: in the sentence about Don Mattingly, switch the two refs, and do so again for the last sentence of the first paragraph. That way, you have [2][5] and [5][7] rather than [5][2] and [7][5]
• Link football to American football
• He's one of the top QBs in Penn history because our football team is so bad and has been since he graduated
• Absolutely shocked that the Wharton baseball guy was in Sig
• "marketing until he graduated from UPenn's" → "marketing, graduating from the"

MLB career

• Overall, since he played for so many teams, having the years in the subheads might be helpful

Atlanta Braves

• This section is so much larger than the rest, it could benefit from some subsections; I'll let you decide where and how many
• "he had three RBI (his only ones of the season)" → "he recorded his only three RBI of the season"
• "then was called up for the remainder of the season in September."
• Amazingly it took until the third paragraph of this section to get to the term "home run", which should be linked accordingly
• "Tendon sheath" should be linked up here and then delinked down below
• "that the poor defensive performance"
• "Watching videotapes"

Texas Rangers

• "DeRosa then signed with the Texas Rangers on January 19, 2005, but on a minor league contract, as there were questions as to his health." → "On January 19, 2005, the Texas Rangers signed DeRosa to a minor league contract, with some concerns about his health."
• The "He responded to this" feels a bit awkward when reading over the source – seems to imply that the "this" is becoming an everyday second baseman, whereas the source talks about how he is still a utility player (or, as they put it, "an everyday starter without an everyday position")

Chicago Cubs

• "DeRosa chose the Cubs because Chicago wanted to use him regularly at second base." → "Chicago offered DeRosa the chance to start regularly at second base, an option that he preferred."
• "However, he again" → "Despite this, he again"
• "was taken to a hospital because he was having trouble breathing and suffering from a rapid heart beat." → "was hospitalized with breathing difficulties and a rapid heartbeat"
• "on www.cubs.com" → "on the Cubs' website."
• "becoming the first Cub to do so"
• "the only Cub runs" → "the only Cubs runs"
• "felt was way harder to take" → "found more disappointing"

Cleveland Indians

• Link Japan to Japan national baseball team

St. Louis Cardinals

• "Soon after his acquisition, however,"
• "the second time he had done so that season" → "for the second time that season"
• "After the season, he underwent surgery to repair a torn tendon sheath in his left wrist.[83] He also became a free agent." → "DeRosa, who became a free agent at the end of the year, used the offseason to undergo surgery that repaired a torn tendon sheath in his left wrist."

San Francisco Giants

• Single-sentence paragraphs are generally discouraged; I see no reason why this can't just start off the paragraph below it
• "he began the 2011 season"
• Comma after the quote from Baggarly
• But DeRosa, who had torn a wrist tendon on that checked swing, The tear is listed earlier; suggest something like "DeRosa instead"

Washington Nationals

• Ditto above with regards to single-sentence paras
• Maybe worth specifying how old he was when he was with the Nats

Toronto Blue Jays

• "that he was retiring." → "that he would retire after 16 years in MLB."

Career statistics

• Good

Personal life and post-playing career

• "born two-and-a-half-months early" → "born prematurely by two and a half months" (with the WL)
• "in a hospital" → "in the hospital"
• "is one of his favorite bands to listen to"
• Both MLB: The Show and MLB The Show 18 should be italicized

References

• There are a few instances where the location (e.g. Newport, VA) is used in parentheses in the "work" parameter where they should be in the "location" param – I see this in [35], [41], [43], [55], [85], and [105]
• [61] needs a work parameter

General comments

• All photos are properly licensed and are relevant to the article
• No stability concerns in the revision history
• Copyvio score looks good at 17.4%

Fight on, Pennsylvania! — GhostRiver 22:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

• GhostRiver Didn't even think about the fact that DeRosa was somewhat local to you! There were quite a few baseball players who were also college quarterbacks in the '90s, like Todd Helton and Pat Burrell. Glad they picked baseball, but it would've been interesting to see what they would've done in the NFL! Anyway, changes addressed; thanks for the review! Let me know if anything more is needed! Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 13:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Everything looks good on my end! There are a few Penn alumni who went into MLB – Jake Cousins is with the Brewers now, and I'm working on Doug Glanville in my sandbox right now. In the meantime, happy to pass! — GhostRiver 14:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)