Talk:Mark Esper

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Improving Source When Possible[edit]

I appreciate the breaking news of his nomination to be Defense Secretary, but maybe we can replace the Tweet with the WhiteHouse.gov announcement or a news article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlCanton (talkcontribs) 17:15, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Bales[edit]

Is the connection to Robert Bales notable? https://www.businessinsider.com/army-secretary-mark-esper-robert-bales-photo-in-suicide-prevention-ad-2018-9 Hcobb (talk) 16:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalization[edit]

Note "the 27th and current United States secretary of defense" is uncapitalized because "secretary of defense" is preceded by modifiers "the", "27th", "current", and "United States", per MOS:JOBTITLES bullet 3 and table column 2, example 3: "Nixon was the 37th president of the United States."

Note "the 23rd and current United States secretary of the Army" is uncapitalized because "secretary of the Army" is preceded by modifiers "the", "23rd", "current", and "United States", per MOS:JOBTITLES bullet 3 and table column 2, example 3: "Nixon was the 37th president of the United States."

Note "United States secretary of defense" is uncapitalized because "secretary of defense" is preceded by modifier "United States", per MOS:JOBTITLES bullet 3 and table column 2, example 6: "A controversial US president, Richard Nixon, resigned." (Rather than uncapitalize these two references, I've just removed "United States".)

Any proposal for modification to the guideline should be posted at its talk page, WT:MOSBIO. —Eyer (If you reply, add {{reply to|Eyer}} to your message to let me know.) 19:49, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If only the Commander in Chief was so attentive to detail! If it was up to him we'd be making a page move request to "Mark Esperanto"... JezGrove (talk) 20:41, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity[edit]

the Maronite church is mentioned, but his Lebanese ethnicity isn't. Uniontown was, at one time, a hub of Lebanese immigrants. why isn't he categorized as Lebanese? 163.129.251.97 (talk) 22:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sen. Dem. letter misrepresentation[edit]

The letter by Senate Democrats did not "[identify] the USS Theodore Roosevelt's coronavirus outbreak as an example of failure," as the current text says. The letter identifies the handling of the coronavirus outbreak on the ship as an example of failure, which is not the same thing. The current write-up both misrepresents the criticism and tries to portray it as unhinged. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 03:45, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing attack on peaceful protestors[edit]

The editor EdJF removed the context that peaceful protestors were dispersed by violent means in order to allow Esper to participate with Trump in a campaign ad. After this editor's whitewashing, the page only mentions that Esper walked alongside Trump to a Church (no mention of the dispersal of protestors, which is made the event notable). The editor should be reverted immediately. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 19:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Poor Sourcing"?[edit]

I would welcome insight as to why my recent edits were deleted for being poorly sourced, and advice on how to use better sources. Once source I used to cite quotes from GEN Milley in the George Floyd section is a recognized commercial transcript agency. Two other sources for another section cited official, signed letters from DOD officials to the Congress. The last addition made cited the official video transcript of the House Armed Services Committee. I don't understand why these were labeled as "poor sources" and consequently deleted. Thanks for the help12:50, 1 August 2020 (UTC)Bloovett (talk)

We use reliable secondary sources, not primary sources such as transcripts and press releases. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 22:45, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

protestors who had been throwing bricks and other projectiles[edit]

I was there. I did not note any brick throwing. The USA article does not mention protesters throwing bricks. The Washington post did a good timeline re the removal of protesters.

I would recommend that the phrase “ protestors who had been throwing bricks and other projectiles” be replaced with “peaceful protestors” or “demonstrators” Mcdomanski (talk) 21:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Deadline online article details CNN and NBC News reporters on the scene at Lafayette Square, contradicting the projectile throwing accounts:

https://deadline.com/2020/06/donald-trump-george-floyd-demonstrators-lafayette-square-park-1202949717/

Seven Network correspondent Amelia Brace details her account in Lafayette Square before the US House:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/australian-reporter-testifies-about-police-beating-outside-white-house-20200630-p557f8.html Jmkoons (talk) 06:36, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Firing.[edit]

How do you know that Esper didn't receive notification of be fired by other means besides tweet? 2600:1702:180:ACA0:2D7A:46BF:FD99:BC00 (talk) 01:12, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propaganda Article[edit]

Blatantly biased towards the communist left. 108.160.119.183 (talk) 13:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]