Talk:Mark Isaacs/Archive 1

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Suggested change

  • What I think should be changed:
  1. Add a sentence to the section "Lifeline Australia" prior to the existing in-line citation, paraphrasing further relevant material as found at cited source.
  2. This section "Lifeline Australia" should be Heading 2. It is NOT a subsection of "(Heading 2) Awards and Nominations" and does not belong under that heading as a Heading 3.

Suggested additional sentence (shown in italics here) is:

Beginning in 2015, Isaacs has been a volunteer telephone counsellor at Lifeline Australia, the nationwide crisis support and suicide prevention service. This work has given him more understanding in the area of mental health, particularly in relation to its impacts on artists.<Keep existing article's named reference>
  • Why it should be changed:

Rather than a plain mention as per a CV, the additional suggested material, as paraphrased from the cited source, underlines the notability of this subject area, supporting its inclusion in BLP

  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

As per section's existing named reference which points to https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/for-mark-isaacs-all-that-matters-is-the-music-20180110-h0g3dk.html Walton22 (talk) 05:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Declined. This is partly about the vaguely promotional tone of the changes, but primarily it's that the source (in interview with an arts editor) isn't suitable for a assertion about the subject's level of understanding about mental health. Better for us to keep it as a simple assertion of what he did, rather than speculate on what he learned. Girth Summit (blether) 13:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, that's a helpful summary which explains the reasoning it was declined and aids in understanding further Wikipedia's requirements in sourcing. Walton22 (talk) 19:14, 17 February 2023 (UTC)