Talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe

Timeline is wrong

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Your Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline is wrong. The order is right but some of the years aren't. If you want proof go buy the timeline book and find out for yourself. You're making yourself look like a fool not having it right when everyone expects you to. I'd give you the right years that you need to change but the last time I tried to change or add something on here you took it off.....and it was accurate. All you had to do was ask the town and high school of Bennett, Colorado. There were two individuals that helped save that high school from vandalism, I was one of them. Dkritner1979 (talk) 15:52, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

We have been working on putting together an updated timeline covering all of the MCU content and interpretations of the timeline given. We do include the Official Timeline book's timeline in a table further down in this article. Whatever past grievances you have are irrelevant here. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:52, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@Trailblazer101 forgive me, the book has been out for a long time now. there's been plenty of time to figure it out, I've had time to figure it out 10 times over myself with the book. I've already posted it in a couple of different spots personally myself, so I'm very surprised to see that Wikipedia doesn't have it up yet. otherwise, what I was talking about before, was the point out how negligence Wikipedia is to follow up on what's out there in the public eye already. what my brother and I have done for Bennett Colorado has been public record for some time now and you refuse to recognize that. It's been in the public high since 1998. that was my point with that The book is out been out for some time now, and what we did for Ben of Colorado has been out for even longer. get with it times. Dkritner1979 (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

The book is wrong. It blatantly contradicts many things that were explicitly made clear in the films, for example that Iron Man 2 was 6 months after Iron Man. InfiniteNexus (talk) 17:57, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus actually if you paid attention, that is not correct. what happens after Ivan is done with his suit takes place 6 months later. it was never specifically told how long it took for him to make his suit. Yes, there may have been some articles on the wall while he was making his suit, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't have taken any longer than that. There is other material out there that says that it takes Ivan about a year to construct what he made. He's not as intuitive as Tony, he didn't have all the proper tools to do it and he didn't have a masters in quantum mechanics or anything like that like Tony did. it could have very well taken him a year to figure it all out. Dkritner1979 (talk) 18:04, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Justin Hammer: "In the last six months, Anthony Stark has created a sword with untold possibilities." InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:06, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus Justin Hammer would have said anything to hang Tony, even saying that it was within the last 6 months when it would have actually had been a year. he was out to destroy him, he would have shortened that time just to make Tony look bad. Dkritner1979 (talk) 18:08, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

You are purely speculating and inferring, which is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. If you're not here to be constructive and help out rather than criticize the hardworking individuals here, this needs no further discussion. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:09, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@Trailblazer101 This is the same crap I got from you whenever I tried to talk to you guys about what my brother and I did for the town that we went to high school noon. you wouldn't listen whenever me and the whole entire school of the year 1998 can corroborate it. do you take anyone's advice on anything or maybe anyone's word on anything or do you just go off of what you want to do? because it seems like you have such a hard time figuring this out and putting this up, I'm trying to help you out. Dkritner1979 (talk) 18:11, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

I have never interacted with you until now, so I cannot speak to whatever you are on about, though that does not pertain to this and holds no baring or relevance here. Trailblazer101 (talk) 18:13, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@Trailblazer101 well I'm not sure if it was you or someone else from Wikipedia, but at one point I put something up on Bennett Colorado on here that talked about my brother and I saving the school there from vandalism and it was taken down because I couldn't corroborate it because it happened back in 1998 and there's no way of corroborating something from 1998. maybe you can make that right for me and we can both pretend that this conversation never happened. Dkritner1979 (talk) 18:18, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) That is WP:OR analysis. We take quotes at face value, unless secondary sources discussing the quote comes to the same conclusion as you. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus My name is Daniel Kritner, my brother from another mother is name is Jason Rinke. when Bennett high School got broken into and vandalized we put together a talent show to raise funds to help clean up the vandalism in the high school and the year 1998. Dkritner1979 (talk) 18:20, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

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Netlflix series

So, the netflix series has been confirmed to be existing within the MCU.

However, the question is: if they are mention in Disney+ placement, how come it is not on timline chart? Loki and What If...? Makes sense since both are outside time while Werewolf by Night did not explicitly state when.

What could be the reason for not including? JEDIMASTER2008 (talk) 08:03, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Their inclusion on the overall timeline graphic is currently under discussion at Draft talk:Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline#Marvel Television to determine the sourcing and placement of that. For the time being, they should remain only in the Disney+ timeline section until we can determine if/how to include them in the main timeline graphic. After all, there is WP:NORUSH. Trailblazer101 (talk) 09:23, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Other shared universes.

Consider including WB's MonsterVerse, The Conjuring Universe, & Wizarding World in the cultural impact section. As well as Universal's failed Dark Universe. Speaking of, there doesn't seem to be a mention of Universal releasing The Incredible Hulk. ShiranuiAensland (talk) 10:36, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Universal is mentioned List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films#Theatrical distribution. Gonnym (talk) 12:43, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Per past discussions and consensus, the impact section was meant to focus solely on other superhero attempts, not all shared universe attempts, as that fits within this article's scope. Otherwise it'd just become an exhaustive list. Shared universe and List of fictional shared universes in film and television exists for that. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2024

Timeline is incorrect: 2019–2022 2023 Endgame[164] WandaVision[165] 2024 Shang-Chi[166] The Falcon and the Winter Soldier[167] Eternals[168][169] Far From Home[170] No Way Home[171] Multiverse of Madness[172] Hawkeye[173] 2025 Moon Knight[174] Wakanda Forever[175] Echo[176] She-Hulk[177] Ms. Marvel[178] Love and Thunder[179] The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special[180] 2026 Quantumania[139][140] Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3[141][142] Secret Invasion[143][140] The Marvels[144]

I guess that was just bad luck and the dates shifted. 2023 should be 2019 and 2026 in order to the rest 2023 so that Endgame is 2019 and The Marvels 2023. The rest needs to be correct analog the the first and last entry. Cai0iaC (talk) 13:31, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

@Cai0iaC Are you referring to the timeline at Marvel Cinematic Universe#As depicted in the MCU? That timeline is correct as it is the order of the events in the films, and not the release order of the films. Jolly1253 (talk) 13:47, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Marvel at Madame Tussauds

There's more where that came from

Hello Wikipedians. I recently added this to the article:

"Madame Tussauds museums in several countries have had Marvel exhibits."

I was reverted, "not fully MCU-specific. not appropriate for listing here", and I reverted again, so we're at BRRD at the time I write this.

I admit, per inclusion of stuff like Wolverine and Sue Storm, this is not 100% MCU, but per refs used and primary stuff like [1][2][3], it is primarily (or at the very least significantly, but I think primarily is fair) that (sort of the mutual money-making point, I think), and so it fits this article. That is my view.

References

Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:37, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Trailblazer101, reverting me again (that's fair), said Yet the museum's attractions' only apparent MCU-related statue was Iron Man's. The Hulk one itself is more comics-based, and the sources and information added do not relate to the MCU.

Ref1: "Rebecca Holmes combs Nick Fury's beard. Fury is played in the forthcoming film by Samuel L Jackson".

Ref2:"Just in time for a summer movie season that will witness the release of The Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man, wax museum Madame Tussauds New York is opening up an interactive Marvel Super Heroes Experience"

Ref3:"The two are Captain America and Iron Man, with the latter standing among a wall of Iron Man armour that is reminiscent of Tony Stark's basement workshop in the movies." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:51, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Fwiw, some more primary-stuff from the other direction:[4] Would "Madame Tussauds museums in several countries have had Marvel exhibits with MCU-elements." be considered an improvement? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:55, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

If there are a few MCU-related figures then I wouldn't say it is completely irrelevant, but it also doesn't seem like a whole new subsection is justified when they seem to make figures about every man and his dog. Is there anything unique about the MCU figures that could make this information more useful to our readers? - adamstom97 (talk) 14:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Nothing in the Other live attractions section appears unique to me, so if noted org with decent sources isn't in WP:PROPORTION, well, that's what I've got. I put it in a separate sub-section since the other stuff there had sub-sections. If this [5][6] counts as a few or not I don't know. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

And on this [7], I'd say without third-party sources, there's WP:PROPORTION-fail. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:28, 18 March 2024 (UTC)