Talk:Megadeth/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: CrowzRSA (talk · contribs) 17:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First thing noticed is that the lead needs to be expanded to meet MOS guidelines, specifically WP:LEADLENGTH. Since the article has about 62,000 characters, the lead should probably be four paragraphs. I know it seems impossible to summarize such a big article thoroughly, but the lead should "Provide an accessible overview" on the article.

Will start rest of review later. CrowzRSA 17:44, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here goes my thorough review...........
You seem to be inconsistent on whether you put period inside or outside of quotes (." [preferred] or ".) this should be fixed
~~You fail to mention anything about Vic Rattlehead except for in the controversy section.~~
At this point, I'm just awaiting refs to be fixed and then I'll review the lead. After another run through I think it should be ready to pass. CrowzRSA 18:19, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

History
Early Days

He was member of the band nearly a year and actively participated in composing their early songs. However, before the start of the recording sessions of Metallica's debut album, Mustaine was dismissed from the band because of his excessive drug abuse and personal conflicts with members James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich. - this would read better as: He was a member of the band for nearly a year and participated in composing their early songs; however, before the start of the recording sessions of Metallica's debut album, Mustaine was dismissed from the band because of his excessive drug abuse and personal conflicts with members James Hetfield and Lars Ulrich.
Link Los Angeles, California
Prior to establishing his new band, Mustaine's intention was to play faster and heavier music than his previous band. shouldn't this be placed before the information about Megadeth? Perhaps right before the "Two months after being fired..." sentence. If this is done, the sentence needs to be rewritten to have good flow.
The band name came from a pamphlet he found on the floor... say who "he" is.
...they both looked at about 15 drummer... - poor word choice, use something like "audition" or even "examine"
...and after unsuccessfully searching vocalists for six months... does not read well, change to "and after unsuccessfully searching for a lead vocalist for six months"
link demo (music)
... Mustaine, Ellefson and drummer Lee Rausch. Raush's first name and line-up position was already stated, this should read: " Mustaine, Ellefson and Rausch."
... before replacing Lee Rausch with jazz fusion simply say Rausch instead of Lee Rausch
"Last Rites/Loved to Death", "Skull Beneath the Skin" and "Mechanix", need comma after "Skull Beneath the Skin" as to maintain consistency throughout article.

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Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!

...the band was forced to fire their original producer and produce the album themselves redundant use of production, perhaps use "fabricate"
The album had decent success in underground metal circles "decent success" is both vague and POV, unless it can be backed up with a fact like a chart position or something.
bigger record labels bad word choice -- perhaps "major" or "more popularized"
link tempo
Another track from the album that drew controversy the previous song mentioned did not seem to draw controversy, or it is left out in the article. All that is stated is that Metallica recorded a similar song, but no detail is given on reactions or anything.
The song sparked controversy during the 90s when the its original author should be 1990's, not 90s.
Under threat of legal action, it was removed from the records released between 1995 and 2001. Do you mean they reissued the album? This sentence is unclear. Perhaps change sentence to: "|Under threat of legal action, the album was reissued in 1995 to exclude the song..." or something along those lines.
the altered lyrics were beeped because Hazlewood hasn't granted permission to the band to release the cover in its original version. several issues: 1.) "beeped"??? do you mean censored? 2.) no contractions except in quotes, per MOS:N'T 3.) poor wording, perhaps say "has yet to grant..."
link royalties

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Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?

The songs for Megadeth's second studio album... The songs on Megadeth's second studio album
The songs were written in a relatively short period in an old warehouse... The songs were written in a relatively short period at an old warehouse...
...album's lead single and was accompanied by music video. album's lead single and was accompanied by a music video.
because of his constant drug overdose. are you sure he was overdosing constantly? Seems like he would be dead for the 4th of 5th time.

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So Far, So Good... So What!

With a major label recording budget, the recording process of the Paul Lani-produced So Far, So Good... So What! took over five months. -- Rewrite so its not redundant in the use of "recording,"
...occurred during the production, due, in part, to Mustaine's ongoing battle with addiction. comma splicing, rewrite to: "occurred during the production, partially due to Mustaine's ongoing battle with addiction."
"The production (of So Far, So Good...) was horrible, mostly due to substances and the priorities we had or didn't have at the time." -- the context in parentheses is not needed, unless this is said in context of the quote, then add the [sic] template.
Instead of "falling out," use "estrangement"
...with lyrics altered by Mustaine. Mustaine later admitted to simply hearing them wrong. rewrite as: "...with lyrics altered by Mustaine, who later admitted to simply hearing them incorrectly."
In August 1988, Megadeth appeared at the renowned Monsters of Rock festival at Castle Donington in the United Kingdom performing to an audience of 107,000 people, with a show that also featured Metallica drummer (and former band mate) Lars Ulrich making a guest appearance. make this two sentences
"I think a lot of us were inconsistent (on the 1988 tour) because of the guy we were waiting for after the show" though I can assume Mustaine is quoted here, it goes against MOS:QUOTE to not link the author in the same sentence as the quote.
...who recalled that filming the video was "Herculean task" since... "...who recalled that filming the video was a "Herculean task" since..."
Link "driving while intoxicated" to Driving under the influence
while it may be obvious, "rehab" is vague, say "drug rehabilitation facility" or something instead and link it.

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Rust in Peace

Meyer had been invited to join the band following Chris Poland's departure, but had declined in order to remain in Dark Angel. remove second "had" ("but declined")
Why is In 1987, then 16-year-old guitarist Jeff Loomis of Sanctuary and, later, Nevermore, auditioned following the departure of Chris Poland. Afterwards, Mustaine complimented Loomis on his playing, but rejected him because of his age. in the 1990-91 section? Should it not be in the 1986-87 section?
Instead of "jamming," use something like "improvising," "extemporizing," or even simply "playing"
Friedman was recommended by Ron Laffitte, a member of the Capitol management, who had previously heard Dragon's Kiss, a solo recording by Friedman during his tenure at Cacophony. Split into two sentences or avoid using so many commas
Mustaine and Ellefson were satisfied of Marty's playing style "of"→"with"
...and thought he well-understands the nature of Megadeth's music. change to: and thought he understood the nature of Megadeth's music.
...with co-producer Mike Clink to begin work on what would... "work"→"working"
debuting at number 23 in the United States[49] and number 8 in the United Kingdom.[50] put ref 49 right before ref 50 to read: debuting at number 23 in the United States and number 8 in the United Kingdom.[49][50]
with songs containing longer guitar solos and frequent tempo changes. incorrect tense, should be "with songs which contained"
Early in 1990, the Slayer members came with an idea should be "came up with"
with Alice in Chains as a support act "support"→"supporting"

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Countdown to Extinction

The record enjoyed similar success overseas and saw Megadeth developing a larger following outside the US. Not a big fan of the word "enjoyed" here, perhaps change to "The record saw similar success overseas and helped to develope a larger following of Megadeth outside the US."
...were really upset because Megadeth have not won the Grammy Award... "have"→"had"
The song was featured on the soundtrack of the 1993 film Last Action Hero, and received a Grammy nomination in 1994. no comma is needed
...stated that they have "dumped" Megadeth... "have"→"had"

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Youthanasia

Link Arizona
Following eight months in the studio, Youthanasia was released on November 1, 1994. It debuted at number 4 on the Billboard 200, and charted in several European countries as well. combine these two sentences with a semicolon
...and was certified platinum in the US a couple of months later. don't use the phrase "a couple," instead, either put the actual amount of time or simply "in the US months later."
The band have abandoned the progressive elements from their... "have"→"had"
they played "Train of Consequences" on their first appearance and "À Tout le Monde" on the second. "on"→"for" "on"→"for"
In the middle of 1995, the band released Hidden Treasures, an extended play featuring songs that originally appeared on movie soundtracks or tribute albums. change sentence to: "In the mid-1995, the band released Hidden Treasures, an extended play featuring songs that originally appeared on movie soundtracks and tribute albums."
link extended play
unlink Monsters of Rock, since it was linked in So Far, So Good... So What! section.

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Cryptic Writings

Following an extensive world tour in support of Youthanasia... already uses "extensive" to describe it previously, perhaps use "expansive" or "ample" instead.
"On the other hand, " is not a good transition. Try using "Additionally," instead.
his knee and was forced to leave to undergo surgery. overuse of "to" ("...to leave to...") - reword
So if the cancer was not real according to Mustaine, shouldn't the sentence about him finding the cancer instead read: "...drummer Nick Menza reportedly discovered a tumor on his knee..."

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Risk

Following the band's first real radio success... this violates WP:POV, just say: "Following the band's success" or something similar
In January 1999, the band began writing a new album. The new album was again supervised by manager Bud Prager, who was credited with co-writing five of the album's twelve songs. combine to read: "In January 1999, the band began writing a new album, which was to once again be supervised by manager Bud Prager, who was credited with co-writing five of the album's twelve songs."
...a decision which Mustaine later admitted "backfired" reword to: "... a decision which Mustaine would later regret, saying that it "backfired"."
was both critical and commercial failure "was both a critical and commercial failure"
...cover version of the Black Sabbath song "Never Say Die", which appeared on... remove the comma after "Never Say Die"
... Megadeth returned to the studio to begin work on their ninth ... "to begin work" → "to start working"

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The World Needs a Hero

Unlink Capitol Records everywhere except the lead and "Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?"
The label returned the band's newest recordings, and, in return... redundant use of "return," reword
...which contained writing credits from guitarist Al Pitrelli. unlink Al Pitrelli and take off first name ("guitarist Pitrelli")
The record was released on May 15, 2001 and debuted at number 16 on the Billboard 200. However, the album was banned in Malaysia after the national government determined that the album's gory artwork was "unsuitable for the nation's youth". Two things: 1.) combine sentences with semi-colon ("...on the Billboard 200; however, the album...") 2.) take out "gory," per WP:WEASEL
Link Kuala Lumpur
...the album marked a return to a more aggressive sound... → "...the album marked the band's return to a more aggressive sound..."
[1] does not say anything about airplay of "Moto Psycho" on VH1
However, the tour was cut short following... → "The tour, however was cut short following..."

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Breakup

In January 2002, Mustaine was admitted to the hospital to get a kidney stone removed. moderately poor English — change to "In January 2002, Mustaine was admitted to the hospital for the removal of a kidney stone." or something similar
... Mustaine suffered a freak injury causing... "freak injury"?

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The System Has Failed

In May 2004, Mustaine returned to his newest recordings, intended as a solo effort, but, due to outstanding contractual obligations with the band's European label, EMI, he was forced to release it as a Megadeth album instead. Too many commas, break up into two sentences
Is "Rust in Peace line-up" a quote? If so, it needs to be referenced at the end of the sentence, per WP:QUOTE
Chris Poland and Sanctuary Records should only be linked twice in the article
...record marked a sonic shift towards their earlier sound "towards the band's earlier record"
While in rehearsal for the tour, drummer Nick Menza parted ways with the band, unable to prepare for the physical demands of a full US tour. I'm pretty sure this is mentioned previously. Not sure though, if it is then delete it.

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Gigantour

link Montreal, Vancouver, United Arab Emirates
unlink The System Has Failed
... both of which were released in the second quarter of 2006. include the album name, and link it if it has an article.
... in Buenos Aires in front of 25 000 fans and was officially... should be "25,000"
In February 2006, bass player James MacDonough parted ways... use "bassist" rather than "bass player"
He was replaced by bassist James LoMenzo, who had previously worked remove the word "bassist," as it is obvious from the previous sentence

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United Abominations

"Metal needs a really good old-school record again. I believe I have delivered." inconsistent with the ". style throughout the page
...Dave Mustaine announced that the album will feature a new version of "A Tout le Monde"... "will"→"would"
...Megadeth had begun a tour in North America... "had begun"→"initiated"
...Megadeth brought Gigantour to Australia, with a lineup consisted of... "consisted"→"that consisted"
In January 2008, Glen Drover quit Megadeth to focus on his family. Drover confessed that he was tired of the frequent touring and wanted to spend more time at home. combine these sentences: "In January 2008, Glen Drover quit Megadeth to focus on his family and confessed that he was tired of the frequent touring and wanted to spend more time at home."
He also mentioned personal issues with other band members as reason for leaving Megadeth. "mentioned"→"cited"
...positively and was invited at Mustaine's house for informal meeting. → "for an informal meeting"

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Endgame

European tour with Judas Priest as the headliners. remove "the"
During this time, Metallica, who had been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, invited Dave Mustaine to attend the ceremony. "During"→"At"
...to attend the ceremony. However, Mustaine was informed... combine these sentences: "...to attend the ceremony; however, Mustaine was informed..."
According to Dave Mustaine, the name "Endgame" is an homage to Alex Jones'... reword: "According to Dave Mustaine, the name paid homage to Alex Jones'..."
... Endgame tour in October, 2009, and finished ... no comma needed between October and 2009
...in December the same year. "the same year"→"that year"
Link Tom Araya, and isn't add something explaining that he is in Slayer
unlink Rust in Peace
"if ever there was a time for you and Dave [Mustaine] to talk, now is it." inconsistency with ". again

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Thirteen

...and were held at number of European countries → "and were held in a number of European countries"
link Sofia, Bulgaria
...was the only scheduled show in the United States at the time. wordchoice, "show"→"gig"
Shortly after that show, a second American show was held at Yankee Stadium in New York City. → "Shortly after this, a second American production was held at Yankee Stadium in New York City."
...Megadeth and Slayer had begun the first leg of the "had begun"→"commenced"
...album Seasons in the Abyss, both released in 1990. → "album Seasons in the Abyss, both of which were released in 1990"
...these two bands joint forces with Anthrax for the start of The Jägermeister change "joint forces" to "unified"
link Jägermeister Music Tour
"Gibson Amphitheater" should be "Gibson Amphitheatre" and linked
...to perform Megadeth's classic "Rattlehead", the first time that Kerry King had performed onstage with Megadeth since Megadeth's very early shows in 1984. - period after "Rattlehead", and remove the "very" in very early shows
Slayer should not be linked twice in this section
Megadeth was also confirmed to headline the fourth annual Rockstar Mayhem Festival, held in July and August the same year. why would you say "was also confirmed"? Was it controversial? I'm guessing it wasn't so reword to: "Megadeth also headlined the fourth annual Rockstar Mayhem Festival, held in July and August the same year."
In September 2010, Megadeth released a song entitled "Sudden Death" for the video game Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock.[181] The song was commissioned by the publishers of Guitar Hero franchise, who wanted the track to feature dark lyrics and multiple guitar solos.[182] It was eventually nominated for a Grammy in the Best Metal Performance category at the 2011 ceremony.[183] Earlier that month, the band released their DVD album Rust in Peace Live, recorded at the Hollywood Palladium in Los Angeles.[184] There seems to be chronological issues here, shouldn't Earlier that month, the band released their DVD album Rust in Peace Live, recorded at the Hollywood Palladium in Los Angeles. be placed first to maintain date consistency?
Dave Mustaine confirmed that Megadeth would be recording their 13th album at their own Vic's Garage studio in California. remove "their 13th album" to read "Dave Mustaine confirmed that Megadeth would be recording at their own Vic's Garage studio in California."
...and would feature previously released tracks such as "Sudden Death" and "Never Dead". state where they were first released.
Link Hamburg and write Hamburg, Germany
... Megadeth premiered a new song from the album named "Public Enemy No. 1". rewrite: "Megadeth premiered a song from Thirteen entitled "Public Enemy No. 1""
Thirteen was released on November 1, 2011, and charted at number 11 on the... "Thirteen"→"The album"
...but did not manage to win the award. remove "manage to" to read: "...but did not win the award."
...Gigantour tour early in 2012. → "Gigantour tour in early 2012."
announced nine-date co-headlining US tour scheduled for May 2012. → "announced nine-date co-headlining US tour to be scheduled for May 2012."

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Super Collider

In September 2012, it was announced that the band would re-release Countdown to Extinction, honoring the 20th anniversary of its release. → "In September 2012, it was announced that the band would re-release Countdown to Extinction in honor of the album's 20th anniversary."
...Megadeth had begun a 2012 fall... "had begun"→"launched"
filmed at the Fox Theater in Pomona, California instead of "Fox Theater in Pomona, California", write Pomona Fox Theater and link it
In August 2012, the band revealed that they would be returning to the studio with producer Johnny K to record their fourteenth album.[196] In December 2012, Dave Mustaine revealed that the new album was under way and that three new songs were "tracked and almost done".[197] In 2013, Megadeth parted ways with Roadrunner Records for Mustaine's label, Tradecraft, distributed through Universal Music Group.[198][199] These three sentences all start with "In". change it up a bit.
"You know, time is short. Nobody knows how long they're gonna live. You see what happened with Jeff Hanneman, so I wanna write as much as I can while I can."[203] inconsistent with the ". style throughout the page

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Influences and writing style

You don't explain that "NWOBHM" is New Wave of British Heavy Metal. In ...members of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal... add (NWOBHM) at the end.
You have listed Dave Mustaine's name countless times throughout the article, just say Mustaine after the first time.
The songs he writes are developed from a certain riff... poor English, rewrite and combine with previous sentence to read: "Dave Mustaine serves as the band's primary songwriter, composing songs which are developed from a certain riff. Upon further modifications, this riff becomes the central part of the song."
I'm sure there's a better word for "song parts", something more professional sounding
"revealed" is overused in this section
...that the band is creating new material "in motion". this is in incorrect tense and seems to be unclear.
While discussing the band's lyrics, Mustaine said that some of them were inspired from books poor English, rewrite: "While discussing the band's lyrics, Mustaine said that much of the themes were derived from literature."
Tell which songs focused on Orwell's book(s)
Question and comment: The source (Houston Press [2]) reports that just "a couple of songs" were inspired by Orwell. I replaced the dubious words with synonyms: fragments→parts, stated/proclaimed→revealed, etc. About the first point, it think that the full name of the movement should be given because the article is entitled that way, it sounds more encyclopedic than the short name, and because it is mentioned for the first time (I used NWOBHM in the quote). Oh, and about the issue with the inconsistent quote marks: I put the full stop in the quotation if the statement is a full sentence or longer. If it's just a phrase or a few words, I put the full stop outside the quote marks.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 19:35, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Musicianship and lyricism

I suggest that you merge the "Influences and writing style" and "Musicianship and lyricism" sections together into "Influences and style" since both sections focus largely on the same topic.
After forming Megadeth, frontman and guitarist Dave Mustaine decided to follow the thrash metal style of his previous band Metallica, with more emphasis on speed and intensity. remove "frontman and guitarist Dave"
Find a better word for "snarling", unless it is used by a critic or someone to describe the band, in which case put it in quotes. Otherwise, snarling is too close to violating WP:OR
staccato riffing should separately link staccato, and since riff has previously been linked, leave it unlinked
...and screeching lead guitar work, while their albums from... - "while" is an odd transition to use here. The sentence may need to be broken up or re-written
The majority of their songs are recorded in standard guitar tuning, which Mustaine believes it provides better melody. - you change tenses by saying "are". I understand that they were and continue to be presently, but it needs to not violate the flow. Perhaps instead of "are" you could use "have been"
link Guitar tunings
...which Mustaine believes it provides better melody - poor English, entire sentence would read better with: "The majority of their songs have been recorded in standard guitar tuning because Mustaine presumes it to provide a superior melody as compared to alternative methods of tuning."
made the music more colorful this is WP:OR and, unless you can credit someone to saying this, needs to be removed.
the band's songwriting techniques peaked with their fourth album this violates WP:POV, but can easily be integrated into the following quote, just needs to be re-written as to show an unbiased opinion
...but occasionally deals with topics... "deals"→"deal"
During Megadeth's commercial peak, Dave Mustaine, the band's main songwriter, elaborated since it is already stated that he is the main writer, simply say Mustaine rather than "Dave Mustaine, the band's main songwriter"
... that were more appealing to a wider audience. → "that were appealed more to a wider audience."

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Legacy

...whose lyrics are still relevant. if it is possible to expand upon the relevance (i.e what are they relevant to, how are they relevant to it etc.)
Except for gaining critical acclaim... "Except for" is a bad transition, "Aside from" would read better.
Don't link 1980s
...including Toxic Holocaust[213] and Warbringer.[235] place [213] after period to read: "Toxic Holocaust and Warbringer.[213][235]"

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Controversy

Controversial and misunderstood lyrics have also caused problems for the band. rewrite: "Controversial and misinterpreted lyrics have also been the foundation of complications for the band."
The music video for "A Tout le Monde" was later banned by MTV remove "later"
"I recognize what the Malaysia government is trying to do, and it is admirable of them trying to protect the young people in the country. But it just shows the degree of ignorance and apathy that the government has toward the problem".[108] inconsistency
In 2003, after healing an arm injury that threatened to end his career, Dave Mustaine has become simply write Mustaine not Dave Mustaine
This paragraph should be placed before the previous as to maintain a since of chronology

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References

YouTube is generally not a reliable source
What makes [3], [4], [5],
What makes [6] a reliable source?
This is not reliable: [7]
These need to be fixed if possible.

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This was a hell of a review, thanks a bunch. It turned out to be copy-editing review most of the part, but regardless, the article benefited a lot from it. You've been a great mentor and I'll be very grateful even if the article doesn't pass. I see this carried you away from your work on The Ramones, so I'll try to finish the noted as fast as I can.

About the links to Rockmetal: As far as I know, that page was created by a fan who collected original interviews with the Megadeth members throughout the years. You can see at the top of the page that the interview is done by a professional journalist (Steffan Chirazi, Fredrik Hjelm, etc) for a certain magazine (Hit Parader or the video album). As for the rest of the sources, I'll be repairing them over the next couple of days and will come back with additional questions.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 21:51, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's all good, The Big Four: Live from Sofia, Bulgaria will soon be just one artist away from being a good topic which is a plus. And I did listen to Megadeth a lot back in the day, and have mad respect for these guys. I think the article is definitely passable at this point, just a few more things to fix up.

Thanks for bolding the note about Vic Rattlehead, completely missed that one since I was looking only at the issues listed below. Honestly, I was surprised that there wasn't much published material about him (really wonder how am I going to bring his own article to GA). However, I found some bits about his appearances on the album's graphics and live shows (as shown here and here). If you think there should be any further expansion, let me know. And talking about the good article topics, we are two albums short of nominating "Megadeth studio albums" for this recognition.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 20:15, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's whats up, are the albums close to GA yet? Fun fact btw, if it wasn't for my argument of Nirvana studio albums being FT (Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/Nirvana studio albums/archive1) then "studio albums" still wouldn't be an acceptable topic :D CrowzRSA 18:19, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Managed to repair the references too, I think the article is ready for another scrutiny. As for the GA topic, Peace Sells and Rust in Peace are currently B-class (I expect them to become GAs this year). By the way, you can monitor the progress on the project here.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 19:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The only issue I have right now is the fact that the lead still needs a bit more information. The only info on newer releases is that David Ellefson is featured on a few of them. No talk of Gigantour, and there should really be some mentioning of their controversy. I rewrote the lead a little too. CrowzRSA 18:36, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Also, File:PSsos.jpg appears to be missing evidence of permission. CrowzRSA 19:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The image was removed. Speaking about non-free material, I noticed that the audio "Last Rites/Loved to Deth" is extracted from the demo, not the album. Second thing, I believe that "Rattlehead" would be of better use since the song is more notable than Last Rites, and actually mentions the band's name in its lyrics. If you can scan 0:42 to 1:04 from YouTube, it will be great. About the images, it seems that the article is very scarce with illustrations. Any idea on what should be uploaded under some "fair use" explanation?--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 20:07, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, but were you asking me to trim it and convert it to .ogg? I can do that if you need me to. As for images, check out other language articles (i.e Spanish, German, Portuguese, etc). CrowzRSA 22:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I wanted you to upload the music file from the link above (if you are able to), because my PC has some problems with the software and works quite slowly this period. As for the images, I'll go around the other Wiki-editions of Megadeth to see if there's something else available.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 06:30, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced the music sample with Rattlehead, do you plan on using the old sample elsewhere? CrowzRSA 00:58, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not usefull at Killing Is My Business because it's a sample from a demo, so I've nominated it for deletion. Thanks for the file though.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 13:29, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last comment - the article needs to integrate List of awards and nominations received by Megadeth into its text much like Metallica#Awards does. I've made a couple edits to the article and I think after this section is added it should be ready to pass. Sorry for the delay! CrowzRSA 23:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did that task too. I listed only the awards won by the band, excluding those countless Grammy nominations, as showed in the Metallica section. I didn't manage to find additional images (so much of this), but since illustrations are not obligatory for GAs, I think the article will do fine.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 00:14, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Conclusion

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
At the beginning of the review, the wording in this article was a complete mess. Poor English every few sentences, unclear in certain aspects, etc. Most reviewers would have considered it to meet the quick-fail criteria because of this, but I saw definite potential. The article now reads much more clear and sounds more professional. I'm sure there are still a few instances of poor English scattered throughout the page, but it definitely meets the GAN criteria. The original research in the Style sections has been fixed as well. There were some unreliable sources originally, but they have been removed from the current version and the facts are verifiable through citations which comply to WP:MOS
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): (focused):
The article covers the Megadeth subject without going too much into depth yet not leaving anything out, therefore making it very informative on the subject.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
Fixed the few instances in style sections
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
May need to be semi-protected, but the problem is not serious
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Damn straight, perhaps a few more images of early concerts would be beneficiary, but as far as GA goes it meets the criteria.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
I assume you will eventually hope to nominate this for FA... before doing this I STRONGLY suggest you get it peer reviewed and copy edited by a copy editor at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. The lead will probably need to be expanded too to meet MOS standards. Anyways, great job on the article and keep supporting metal

Passed by CrowzRSA on 02:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]