Talk:Melbourne, Derbyshire

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Demonym[edit]

Does this town have a recognised demonym? I ask this because the residents of the larger city after which it was indirectly named, Melbourne, Australia, are known as "Melburnians". Not Melbournians, but Melburnians. I've looked in vain for an answer to the question of where this form came from, and when, and who created it. When Melbourne was founded in 1837, the demonym was either borrowed from the existing demonym of the Derbyshire village, or created ab initio. I've raised questions at both Talk:Melbourne#Melburnians and Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#Melbourne > Melburnian, but so far, nothing. Does anyone here have any clue about this? -- JackofOz (talk) 10:55, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have lived here for nearly 15 years and the term Melbournians or Melburnians is never used as far as I know. (Histman (talk) 00:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)}[reply]

Culture, industry, transport[edit]

This section is becoming very confused after recent changes. (Histman (talk) 00:42, 7 March 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not going to happen. Ucucha 12:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Melbourne, Derbyshire → Melbourne — As this is the English section of the encyclopedia, I would have thought that this page should be the prime topic. Homan's Copse (talk) 19:55, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose. Clearly WP:POINT. The suggested move is not for the primary use of the name. Yes, the is the English version of Wikipedia, but that does not mean that only British uses can be primary topics. There are other places that use the English language, like that small place across the pond that, I think is called America and Australia. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:23, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - In the 17th century, the Derbyshire town might have been a contender for primary topic but not in this day and age. Green Giant (talk) 02:33, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Blimey. The Australian city is quite obviously the primary topic here, so I doubt we'll be needing the full 7 days of discussion for this one. Suggest the nom actually reads the guideline they link to. PC78 (talk) 12:05, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy close; nominator appears to be making WP:POINT-y nominations in protest of the request at Talk:Dover. Powers T 12:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Tourist Information Centre[edit]

Hi, I am thinking of going to Melbourne, Derbys on Saturday 11 August and was just wondering if anyone knows if there is Tourist Information Centre at all? --MSalmon (talk) 12:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Georgian Market Town" Label[edit]

Hello, I'd like to question the articles labeling of Melbourne as a "Georgian Market Town".

The town is mentioned in the Domesday book, and has a 12th century church, so is considerably older than "Georgian". And the town was granted permission for the market itself by Henry III in 1230. Again, considerably older than Georgian.

The town centre itself is very eclectic, like many small town centres, with a variety of architectural styles from the Norman church and Victorian Gothic chapels, lots of very cottagy/rural style buildings, rural Georgian and Victorian style shop fronts etc. There is no dominant architectural style. Plus the town centre is extremely small; if you took the village as a whole, the dominant stile would be the postwar housing that makes up the bulk town.

The "Georgian" label seems a bit misplaced and and has unfortunately been picked up by those places who use wikipedia for lazy research - IE. Councils and public funded tourist websites


Beyond the Georgian label, we could question the idea that it is a market town. I have never known there to be a regular market, and google finds nothing to support that assertion. Is it perhaps a "former market town"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.29.82 (talk) 12:44, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

Here in Australia, the city name is pronounced Melb'n, with a schwa sound. Is your town pronounced like that, or as Mel-born? Correctrix (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Australian city of Melbourne- not just the 2nd largest.[edit]

For factual accuracy, the Australian city of Melbourne in fact became the largest city in Australia from about 1870ish until certainly 1902, when Sydney regained its position as Australia's largest city. The dates don't matter for the purposes of this article, but Melbourne was certainly Australia's largest city for a while. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.199.94.223 (talk) 03:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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