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Difference between City NYL and NPL teams[edit]

As specified on the Melbourne City website, the NPL team is distinctly different to the NYL team. The squad, kit and coach are different while City has also created official separate social media pages for the NPL team. Thus I have created another page just for the City NPL team named Melbourne City FC NPL. http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/draft-npl1-announcement/10toy4tbofvq2zray8ulbc0km — Preceding unsigned comment added by Millsy29 (talk • contribs) 10:52, 6 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free use of File:Melbourne City FC Logo (2014–).png[edit]

This image does not have the separate, specific non-free use rationale it needs according to WP:NFCC#10c to be used in this particular article. Therefore, it may be removed per WP:NFCCE. Normally, all that is needed is to add the appropriate nfur to the file's page so that all 10 of the WP:NFCCP are satisfied. It's not clear, however, if the same image is being used for the NPL and NYL teams. If they are not connected at all, then an image specific to each team and supported by an appropriate non-free rationale should be used. If they are affiliated in any way, then No. 17 of WP:NFC#UUI may apply. No. 17 basically says that non-free logos of parent organizations cannot be used in the articles of child organizations and then non-free logos specific to the child organizations are to be used instead. So, if one is considered to be the "parent" of the other, then I don't believe the image can be used in the article of the "child" organization. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:10, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're talking about this as if they are separate entities. They are not. They are different iterations of the same entity. WP:NFC may talk about child entities that lack their own branding, but the thing is that this team shares its branding with the first team. Furthermore, there are no alternative images to use. In every aspect, this team plays under the same logos as the first team. There are no images specific to this team that are not specific to the first team. Falastur2 ^Talk 17:33, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply Falastur2. I'm not sure whether they are the same or not. I removed the image because it did not have the non-free use rationale it needs for this article. The parent/child stuff is just concern as to whether the image can be used even if it does have a rationale. For reference, the image we are discussing is not the one being used in Melbourne City FC: That image is File:Melbourne City FC.svg. These images look identical to me, so I am not sure why there are two of essentially the same image being used. If, however, they are different logos then all that probably needs to be done is to add a non-free rationale that complies with all 10 of the WP:NFCCP for this article. I think it might be a good idea to ask about these images at WP:NFCR for clarification because two non-free images of the same thing are not really needed. - Marchjuly (talk) 22:22, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't involved in the adding of logos in this article or Melbourne City FC but I'm pretty sure I would be right when I say the reason there are two is because someone eventually got round to make a .svg vector image of the original logo on the main article (i.e. the senior team) and never thought about updating this one. There really is no need for a second image. Falastur2 ^Talk 23:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I opened a discussion at WP:NFCR#File:Melbourne City FC Logo (2014–).png and File:Melbourne City FC.svg which hopefully will help clarify things. If the both the main and youth teams use the same logo, then I think all that needs to be done is to add a non-free rationale for the youth team to whichever of the two images does not end up being deleted. - Marchjuly (talk) 00:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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