Talk:Metro Lakeland

Invented Term[edit]

I grew up in Southern Illinois. I lived most of my life there. I have heve *never* heard this term before in my life. When was it invented? Who invented it? It certainly isn't any wide spread use. A google search for "metro lakeland" returns this page, and another page about someplace in Florida. This article should be deleted. 128.114.60.100 21:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Either this article should be deleted or redirected to Metro Lakeland (Illinois) and/or rename this article to the Carbondale-Marion-Harrisburg-Herrin Metropolitan Area. JGibson233 24.178.253.182 02:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC) 9:34 PM, 17 April 2007 (CDT)[reply]

I vote deletion. I was going to mark it for deletion, but apparently you need an account to do that these days. The whole idea that there is a "metro" in Southern Illinois outside of Metro East is laughable. Energy is a major city? Energy is practically an enclave to Herrin. It couldn't even prevent Herrin from jumping it. No offense, but there's nothing major about it. This whole article has this wiff of artificiality to it. Like it is something out of some marketing guide written in by some Madison Avenue hack that had to give a patronizing name to each sub media market of the country. 67.188.7.78 18:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I too grew up in Southern Illinois. While I've never heard the term "Metro Lakeland", I don't dispute this area's status as a population center of Southern Illinois. Over half the population in Southern Illinois (outside of St. Louis) lives in the four county region of Williamson, Jackson, Franklin, and Saline. Metro may be a bit much, but I'd say this definitely qualifies as a Micropolitan area.

Type in

Metro-Lakeland Marion, Illinois

into google and see what you get, you'll think differently. This is a new term used by most southern Illinois officials now and census employees. Get the picture folks. Marion, Carbondale, and Harrisburg are growing at a break neck pace, they might not always have been, but recently they have been. This term was "invinted" by the Williamson County tourism board and has been used ever since. Welcome to the future. BTW, this term should ONLY be applied to Harrisburg, Marion, Carbondale. NOT West Frankfort or Herrin for that matter.

I typed in "Metro-Lakeland Marion, Illinois" into Google. i got 12 results, 4 of which were on Wikipedia. . . . I grew up in Southern Illinois as well, and escaped the area because there was and has been no future there for a long time. I'm kind of chuckling about this article, because you're talking about a "Metro" area, and stretching it awfully far out, ya think? What percentage of growth is "Break neck pace" anyway? Last time I heard, the entire Southern Illinois population was declining at a pretty "break neck pace". . .

Just to clarify, Williamson County is growing, but Jackson County is not (it lost 2,000 people between the 1990 and 2000 Census). I too grew up in Southern Illinois (Carterville) and have not once heard this term used. While I agree that this is an important population center in Southern Illinois and that it deserves its own Wikipedia article, I think that the name should definitely be changed, and would further argue that Harrisburg be excluded from being a part of the population center (it simply isn't contiguously connected in the same way the communities are from Marion to Murphysboro). The mere fact that tourism officials have decided to call this area something else doesn't make it so. This is a terrible article that needs a ton of work.

First of all, if this term is left in Wikipedia than its purpose needs to be to inform the reader that it one used by a local tourism bureau and that it is an unofficially grouping of surrounding towns, whatever that may be. On a related note, Carbondale-Marion, etc. do not qualify for metropolitan status by the US Census Bureau because simply no core city has a population of more than 50,000. Jackson, Williamson and Saline counties are each individual Micropolitan Areas themselves but there is no official designation by the government for the area as a whole although with 120,000 combined population of Williamson and Jackson county you would think there might be one. I am puzzled with the person that stated the term was created by the Williamson County Tourism Bureau and then proceeds to argue the inclusion of Harrisburg (in Saline Co) and the exclusion of Herrin (in Williamson Co). Also continuing a thought related to that same article, Harrisburg and Carbondale are not growing in population at all, so I am not sure what source they are using. Williamson Co (Marion, Herrin and Carterville) is the only county putting together any decent growth in deep-southern Illinois outside of Metro East (which incidentally is another "marketed, unofficial" designated for an area. Metro East is part of the St Louis MSA according the government. And even Williamson Co's growth I would hardly call "break neck". It is not even double-digit growth. Las Vegas' growth in the 1990's was "break neck". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chadew (talk • contribs) 22:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One should include that the person above stating "Harrisburg, Marion, Carbondale" is probably getting there source from the WSIL TV 3 slogan (being used since 1953). Also being that those three towns are the largest in the region with Marion being the largest Carbondale being the second largest and Harrisburg being the third. They also all three reside in their own counties, and all have their own separate population growth.

Marion claims the largest growth, Carbondale claims the University, and Harrisburg has basically claimed the Shawnee National Forest. I do argue with terms like "break-neck pace" and I am puzzled as well why they would exclude Herrin.

Anyone notice that the only individual on this page arguing on behalf of the legitimacy of this article is the same one claiming that Harrisburg should be included as part of this "metro", but that Herrin (located right between Marion and Carbondale) should not be? That ought to tell you something... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griffinradio (talk • contribs) 05:35, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last week (Nov. 2010) I talked with the mayor of one of the main cities in the zone in question. He had never heard of the term "Metro Lakeland"! Kotabatubara (talk) 16:19, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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