Talk:Michelle Lyons

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A fact from Michelle Lyons appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 January 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Michelle Lyons has personally witnessed nearly 300 executions?

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conde nast citation[edit]

the new yorker article apparently autocited conde nast (the fashion brand) as an author. can someone please fix it? i'm not too familiar with fixing the citations. thanks. Bremps 09:48, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

fixed it Bremps 04:10, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 00:43, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that covering car accidents and house fires as a teenage reporter may have helped Michelle Lyons process witnessing nearly 300 executions later in life? Source: https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-witness/
(very long article, just ctrl-f for "fire" or "wreck")
- ALT1: ... that of the nearly 300 executions Michelle Lyons has seen, only two were of women? Source: https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/the-witness/
  (very long article, just ctrl-f for "two women")
- ALT2: ... that Michelle Lyons feared that she would give birth to the reincarnated spirit of one of the nearly 300 criminals she had seen be executed? Source: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/execution-witness-michelle-lyons-who-has-watched-280-men-die/GCRHNNWDD64TSAQGFY7AHHFOWA/
  (ctrl-f for "evil spirit" or "evil child")
- ALT3: ... that Michelle Lyons has personally witnessed nearly 300 executions? Source: any of the previous sources i used

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bremps (talk • contribs) 05:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- Reviewed:
- Comment: ALT 3 is a backup, just in case all the other ones are unsatisfactory.

Created by Bremps (talk). Self-nominated at 03:44, 19 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I *think* I'm exempt from having to do QPQ, since this is my 2nd nomination. Do multiple alts count as many nominations? Bremps 03:49, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is overall a well-researched and nicely written piece, can't find much to quibble about. No evidence of copyvio. The hooks are all interesting (and multiple alts count as one nom), but not all the facts are currently in the article. (Where's the bit on ghost babies?) Moreover, you could do away with some of the iffier sources, e.g. Daily Beast, LAD Bible. The sourcing is a little bloated right now. The prose could do with some trimming do, although that's not a DYK issue and the article would be long enuf either way. I think this should be good to go once all the relevant changes are made! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 17:25, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingoflettuce: Thanks for the suggestions. I did some light trimming on the text, removed some extraneous citations, and added in the info on the ghost baby. I unfortunately can't remove one of the LADBible sources, since it appears to be an exclusive interview. Are we good to go? Bremps! 19:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Bremps, thanks for the quick work. I dunno though, this suggests that LADbible isn't the best source to be using in a BLP. The info it's being cited for isn't directly relevant to her claim to fame as an execution witness anyway. But if anyone more knowledgable about this could offer a second opinion, that'd be great. I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to sources like that. In the meantime, I'll give it a preliminary tick

assuming the LADbible source is okay. Cheers! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 19:29, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tick. I'll also wait for an another opinion.Bremps! 19:33, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Poorly written for a DYK article[edit]

I was going to edit the most obvious mistakes (see below), but the whole article needs rewriting. As it stands it reads like a badly sub-edited tabloid piece. I'd even suggest that there's a case to be made that the subject isn't notable enough to be in Wikipedia at all

> "she had saw" should be: "she had seen"

> "sexist discrimination" should be: "sex discrimination" (it may be sexist, but that isn't the usual phrase)

> "Lyons has changed her views surrounding the death penalty after she learned of her pregnancy" should read: "Lyons changed her views... etc" HieronymousCrowley (talk) 05:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Bremps, the primary author of the article. I'm quite new to writing articles. Do you have any advice for my future writing? Bremps! 05:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]