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Being that general practice on Wikipedia is not to use a copyrighted image when a Public Domain one will do, I suggest we alter the main header image from the current copyright protected version of the character to the version depicted in the 1928 short "Gallopin' Gaucho" as it includes Mickey's iconic white gloves.
This would serve both as an appropriate application of the basic principle of Free Information as well as a cogent statement that, fundamentally, Wikipedia too is a public resource made possible in no small part because of the Public Domain. 65.158.230.84 (talk) 18:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree we should change it, but the "Gallopin' Gaucho" depiction is likely to be deleted shortly because it enters the public domain on January 1, 2025 (It was registered in 1929). How about the Steamboat Willie depiction? Like the one at File:Mickey Mouse.svg? that one is pretty iconic on its own. Next year we could change it again to the 1929 depiction. aaronneallucas (talk) 20:37, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know there is no public domain image that will serve the same purpose of showing the reader what a modern illustration of the character looks like. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 23:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The FFD close statement says "Whether this image appears in the infobox, or in the body of the article is an editorial decision outside the scope of FFD." The discussed file's WP:NFCC rationale should also be accordingly modified. I am personally in favor of moving the modern Mickey's picture into the body of this, as the Steamboat Mickey can identify the article subject well. NasssaNsertalk 16:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Changing the image, side-stepping the vote because it was specifically talking about WP:NFCC#1, without holding a separate discussion seems inappropriate. I think reverting the image and holding that discussion rather than unilaterally making a change would be better here. DMBradbury 21:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 16:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
'His most recent theatrical cartoon short was 2013's Get a Horse! ' is in the article, but the short released in 2017. 64.234.103.102 (talk) 18:58, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, just saying what the article for the short said. It's seems fixed now, anyway. 64.234.103.102 (talk) 19:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why mickey mouse suffered a decline from 40s to 50s?[edit]
I cannot understand believe that mickey mouse unexpectedly dropped in popularity that decade when goofy and donald got exploded in term of viewership during golden era. As if many people thought there are many lost mickey toons from 40s 50s but i cant verify like that. Cmiiw.182.2.141.30 (talk) 04:11, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's not complicated. Donald's unlucky personality and down-on-his-luck relatability and Goofy's slapstick comic relief received more focus after enough of Mickey's vanilla everyman personality. I'm sure the Disney company couldn't find any further innovation for him around that time, so his golden age was over after The Simple Things. There was less focus on animation within Disney after the '40s as well, so there diminished the short films aspect altogether. (And besides the commercial decline of such, do they really wanna compete against WarnerBros. in that field?)
I don't have any sources to show for this, but I've read a bit on animation history and the whole Dark Age thing about it, so I guess you can take my word for it. Carlinal (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"There was less focus on animation within Disney after the '40s" Less focus on production of short films, but Disney's animated feature films actually had an increased budget in comparison to much of the 1940s. See Walt Disney Productions short films (1950–1959) for the overall decline in their production numbers during the decade. 18 short films in 1950, 18 short films in 1951, 17 short films in 1952, 15 short films in 1953, 10 short films in 1954, 4 short films in 1955, 6 short films in 1956, 2 short films in 1957, 1 short film in 1958, 3 short films in 1959. Dimadick (talk) 09:05, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most people know Mickey Mouse through his current design. I don't even know why the image was changed besides Steamboat Willie and all the other shorts being in the public domain. SpriteSens (talk) 03:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NFCCP the fair-use rationale for using a copyrighted image relies on it being irreplaceable. Since the original design became public domain, that's no longer the case. But it would make sense for the article to include the newer design somewhere where that is itself the topic of discussion. UpdateNerd (talk) 06:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If anything I kinda like the current head image since it's the original Mickey Mouse that Disney and Iwerks created during the rubber hose days of animation, so there's that historic factor. And while this image of Mickey Mouse is no longer the only image as a head candidate, it's still important enough to be in a later section of the article as an appropriate illustration. The placing of both these images are good as is.
By the way, should we have to reduce the amount of fair use images down the road I'll push for the same modern image to be kept, since it's a better showing of Fred Moore's design than the Fantasia screenshot. Carlinal (talk) 18:30, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"...co-created in 1928 by Walt Disney and Ub Iwerks. The longtime icon and mascot of the Walt Disney Company. Mickey is an anthropomorphic...". The error is in the abrupt placement of the period in the second sentence of the entire page. ScriptGeez (talk) 05:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 16:03, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
