Talk:Mike Echols

This article was nominated for deletion on 23 October 2022. The result of the discussion was keep.

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References[edit]

The reference file "The Echols File" should be removed as it was created and distrubuted by pedophiles, and as such will have a biased opinion of the subject. Kerusso 23:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing NPOV template[edit]

There has been no indication or discussion of what the issue is beyond one link, which has since been removed. Willemslie (talk) 11:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

NONE of the sources have an actual link to the article? I checked two, the newspaper couldn't find the article after a search. Will look more, but this is kind of troubling considering the claims. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:52, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Dennis Brown and @Liz, I came across a source that said the "indecent exposure" was mooning the police but I don't think I cited that particular source though. I suggest updating the article to state "various misdemeanors" instead. The only reason he was in jail was for failing to appear. S0091 (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, S0091,

I removed that statement from the articles because the citations that were used either didn't support indecent exposure claim or I could not locate them. Then, when I did a different search, I found a reprinted copy of an article from the Monterey paper saying he was charged with, how should I say this, waving his genitals at some soldiers. So, it was along the lines of mooning, not exposing yourself to a child or family. But it was a newstory that someone had copied and pasted and although it looked very authentic to me, I couldn't see using that page as a reference, so I just reverted myself. Echols denied the accusation by the way, he said his pants slid down in a struggle with the military policy. I'd try to find a better secondary source but it looks like this article may be deleted via AFD so I just put things back the way they were until I tried to "fix" things. It's too bad we don't have more background on him, he sounds like he was a complex, driven person and pretty unique. Just maybe not notable in the way Wikipedia defines "notability". Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, now it looks like this article might be kept so I'll try to refind that reference and see what you think. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:36, 13 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made some additional updates to clarify the indecent exposure charge and cleanuped some of the other statements to align with sources. S0091 (talk) 17:04, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]