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Main picture[edit]

Why was the picture changed to the current one? While I understand that it's more recent, it's inferior to that of her on the podium at 2009 Worlds for a number of reasons: (a) NHK's a less major event and thus less significant to her career as a whole; (b) it's a smaller picture; and (c) it's not the most flattering of pictures... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.12.230 (talk) 22:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tabloid Coverage[edit]

The Japanese press has been relentlessly critical of Ando's weight, calling her the "lard laden lady of the lutz".

This is an outrageous quote to include in an encyclopedia article. Even if it is true (and I lack the level of understanding of Japanese to verify it) it is highly POV and misleading. The article link at the bottom isn't even about Ando, it's about other students at her former high school. Also, the link is story from a tabloid so it is a highly dubious source of information. Miki Ando is a popular public figure in Japan, appearing in numerous television programs and advertising. Just because someone is critical of her weight (although I fail to see why), it is a tremendous logical leap to claim the press is "relentlessly critical." I am removing both the quote and the link to the article. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 08:34, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Move?[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved to previous name. --Aervanath (talk) 17:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Miki Andō → Miki Ando — No reason for the move in the first place. Ando is clearly her preferred English spelling. — 141.151.181.196 (talk) 18:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Contested --DAJF (talk) 02:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Although the macronned form is probably more correct, the form without the macron is likely preferred due to WP:MOS-JP#Names of modern figures. Dekimasu よ! 02:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now until proof is given of the prevalence of "Ando." The macroned form is assumed if all else fails and the only source that cites her own preference (if that's what the IP was aiming at) is her fully Japanese-language website. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 16:06, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I support a revert back to "Miki Ando", which is the form of her name in English. I have never seen the macronned form used. This holds true for the other pages that were moved (Yukina Ota and Yuzuru Hanyu). I have never seen a macronned form used for any Japanese skater. How is this part of MOS-JA being implemented on other Japanese sportspeople who have never used a macronned form professionally? Kolindigo (talk) 05:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Andō is wrong because the Japanese pronunciation of Ando is not a prolongation of the short vowel "o" as in "pot", but an "o" just as in alphabet "o" containing a slight pronunciation of "u" added, like "so".

That is why most people having the family name of Ando and having chances to communicate in English spell themselves "Ando". The famous architect Tadao Ando for instance. Even in Wiki he is Ando. His published English portopholio is "Ando". It is a violation of personality rights to force macron on "o". I don't know how to move this back. It would be nice if Oda-Mari san reverts back to what the whole figure skating community has loved ... a beautiful skater named Miki Ando. FatherAsleep (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Program Music Description - 2009-10[edit]

I just wanted to tell that the music description for Ando's long program in 2009-10 is incorrect. Although many articles describe the music as Marco Polo soundtrack by Ennio Morricone, that is wrong. The correct music description is "Marco Polo" by Loreena Mckennitt, from her album Book of Secrets. I changed it but then someone changed it back again. Please listen for yourself, you will see I am right.

Dagurasum (talk) 21:56, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are incorrect, the slow section music IS by Ennio Morricone, I have double checked. See this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkjiOUocLFg&feature=related

Miki Ando's official ISU biography page lists the music as being by Ennio Morricone.

The Loreena Mckennitt song is also used, so too is the Morricone soundtrack. It is used during the spiral sequence of Miki's program. Please stop deleting it from the page!!!

Hellomontana (talk) 04:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that is correct, both the soundtrack and Loreena's song are used. Thank you for pointing that out, sorry for the mistake, just wanted to be sure Loreena's song was listed. BTW I only deleted it once and then left it alone after that.

Dagurasum (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Competitive highlights" table order[edit]

"Competitive highlights" table is designed for the ease to understand the athelete's history. However, for every skater, there is a difference between the order of events shown between the two versions of Wikipedia, English and Japanese.

The Japanese version of skaters show them in quasi chronological order, senior games above and junior below. The English version gathers championships on top, senior and junior (and Novice).

As a personal history of an athlete, Japanese version of display order is by far more adequate and easy to follow.

What the English version guards is only the categorization of "Championships".

Current table in the edition by 78.29.155.145 show World Junior Championships, National Junior Championships and National Novice Championships above senior Grand Prix Final, which is the way the other skaters' English Wiki are, but not in chronological order nor in importance order, hence very difficult for the readers to follow the athelete's history.

So I propose here to adopt, for every skater, the chronological order of display, which the Japanese version has long adopted up to this date, and which my edition followed suite here at English Wiki.

I wait for your opinions.

FatherAsleep (talk) 01:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]