Talk:Minnesota Golden Gophers men's basketball

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Good articleMinnesota Golden Gophers men's basketball has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 21, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed
July 25, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
October 5, 2008Good article nomineeListed
January 10, 2009Featured article candidateNot promoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 16, 2007.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that NFL hall of famer Bud Grant and MLB hall of famer Dave Winfield both played for the Minnesota Golden Gophers men's basketball team?
Current status: Good article

In progress[edit]

This article is very much in progress; it will be worked out over the next three days or so, in large part. Certainly anyone is free to edit what's there, but I'm working on getting a large portion of the body together, so don't fret too much. When I'm done, it will look something like Tulsa Golden Hurricane men's basketball, if you are curious. matt91486 22:19, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, well, this doesn't apply so much anymore. We're pretty much there. matt91486 01:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ohio State Brawl[edit]

The absurd slant on this incident really needs to be changed, since it obviously is written from a U. of Minnesota POV. I'm surprised it didn't say that Luke Witte kicked himself in the groin and then stomped on his own head. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SleezGaleez (talk • contribs) 03:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I had the same response reading that section - blatant bias in how the incident is described, strong accusations, and unsourced opinion. I put on the neutrality tag because the brawl is not being described neutrally. Needs a rewrite. ProfGiles (talk) 12:28, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I'm more inclined to say the paragraph is simply guilty of poor writing, rather than blatant POV issues. In several places, the stress is put on "In MN Gophers fan's minds..." - thus stating that the POV is overt. However, the writing is crap and there are number of areas that appear to indicate sentences were moved around creating chronology issues. Ckruschke (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke[reply]

NCAA Champions[edit]

I noticed that three NCAA titles are listed in the infobox for this article. I know these are retroactively-awarded Helms Athletic Foundation championships, not NCAA ones. Might they be better placed elsewhere in the article so as to avoid confusion? I've had a similar conundrum on the Illini page in regards to their 1915 Helms National Championship.Chiwara 16:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried the parenthetical stipulation; I feel like they're notable to be in the upper infobox, but I also agree they definitely need an asterisk or stipulation of some sort. I'm not totally sure of the best solution. matt91486 21:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well since the infobox says NCAA Tournament Championships, frankly I think its obvious that they don't belong there. They definitely deserve to be mentioned in the article though.Timpcrk87 21:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Current Nomination[edit]

Hey, anyone who happens to be watching the article, I'm not sure if it'll help our chances at getting the GA status or not, but it couldn't hurt if we tried to take care of some of the red-links in the article. I'm going to see if I can get a little page up on Don Yates up in the next day or two, maybe another one. Just thought I'd throw it out there. matt91486 23:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA review[edit]

I have reviewed this article against the GA criteria, and this is what I've found:

  • Well written: Doesn't meet WP:HEAD (headings should be sentence case, not title case. Perhaps the massive table in the middle of the article could be moved to the bottom of the article, so you don't have to scroll through it if you're not interested in it. Some punctuation issues: many words like on-campus, post-season are lacking hyphens; Following Haskins departure should have a apostrophe in Haskins. Capitalization: Vice president for Athletics, Associate athletics director should probably be capitalized differently.
  • Factually accurate and verifiable: While the majority of the article is well-referenced, the Postseason section doesn't have a single reference. Outside of this section, I count six unreferenced paragraphs.
  • Broad in its coverage: Article meets criteria
  • NPOV: While it's natural to be biased towards a team you support, articles need to be written neutrally. Terms like talented, best talent, and 'powerhouse, are subjective and need a citations by a well-respected expert in order to stay.
  • Stable: Article meets criteria
  • Images: Article meets criteria

Unfortunately, I do not feel this article meets the GA criteria at this time. However, it shows potential and is quite close. Some more work will get this article in shape for the next nomination. —Scott5114↗ 06:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. I've made some of the changes already and will continue to work on it. I'm not sure I agree on the use of 'talented' as a bias word, though, in the context it is in. The program has had NBA players, so I think saying it has had talented players in its history is sort of self-explanatory. matt91486 15:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Preparation for next GA review[edit]

Hey, just as a heads up to anyone who might have this article watched and is willing to help, I think we should submit this for another GA review in a little bit. So any help anyone could give with clean-up and improvements before then would be greatly appreciated. I'm personally going to try to add a statistical leaders section and to work on referencing some of the stuff that was pointed out as having concerns last time. Also, I might try to make stubs for the coaches articles who don't have any, to minimize the red links. matt91486 (talk) 01:11, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Minnesota Golden Gophers men's basketball/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Hello. I will be doing the GA review of this article. Here are some suggestions for improvement:

  • The biggest thing that jumped out at me was the incorrect dash usage. See WP:DASH for more information.
    • It hurt my head to fix, but it's now done.
  • "Legendary coach John Kundla" - try to avoid peacock terms such as these
    • Done.
  • For Image:Mchale by lipofsky.jpg, which one is McHale? A caption like "McHale (center) as a member of the NBA's Boston Celtics" would be better, IMO.
    • Done.
  • In "Scandal under Haskins", the bulleted list of stripped records/banners breaks up the flow of the text. It might be better to end the paragraph with "They agreed with the University that massive fraud took place under Haskins' watch, and stripped the Gophers of all awards and titles dating back to the 1993-94 season citing a "lack of institutional control".[51]" and make a table (that resembles the retired jersey number one higher on the page) to the side with the title "Stripped banners and records" (or something similar). Thoughts?
    • I like it. Gives the article some more variation. Done.
  • "Nevertheless, when the NCAA discovered Thompson's act, Minnesota's record for the season was forfeited. so as was the case 20 years later in 1997, the accomplishments of that season are considered unofficial and not included in NCAA records." - two problems here. 1) the period and incomplete sentence 2)there needs to be a source stating the records are unofficial
  • The Barn doesn't need to be bolded. See MOS:BOLD.
    • Done.
  • Results by season table - can it be set to default hide, that way someone who wants to see it can press show (instead of the other way around?)
    • I think this is a good idea. I'm not very good with coding, but I'll look into it and see if I can figure it out.
  • A lot of the references are the same and can be combined. Ex: 16 and 17; 28 and 29; etc
    • Done.
  • Also in the references, quite a few of the web references are incorrectly formatted and the web addresses are visible. Using Template:cite web will fix the problem.
    • Done.

That's it for now. The article will be on hold for seven days for improvements. Nikki311 18:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks for all of your comments! I'll do my best to address them over the next few days. matt91486 (talk) 20:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • All looks good. I'm sure there is a way to fix the coding, but I'm not sure what it is. Not a big deal, though, so PASS. Great work. Nikki311 00:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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