Talk:Mirror armour

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There seem to be two distinct types of 'mirror' armor: One more analogous to a coat of plates--worn over a full suit of chain mail; and a second similar to banded mail, where the metal plates are held together by chainmail. Theblindsage (talk) 03:22, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • historically both types (with rectangular and round mirrors) are evolved from single mirror worn like phalera, so both types called as "mirrors", despite of completely different construction. (Idot (talk) 07:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC))[reply]
    • both types are typcially worn over full suit of chain mail, because they do not have rerebraces (Idot (talk) 07:52, 20 November 2011 (UTC))[reply]
  • they do not held by chainmail, they have backing made from chainmail or cloth, but held by leather laces hidden under backing. so mirror armours with chainmail backing look like plated mail, while mirror armours with cloth backing look like brigandine. even more backing could be made from both cloth and chainmail like japanese brigandine - tatami-do (Idot (talk) 07:41, 20 November 2011 (UTC))[reply]
  • or do you mean as "analogous to a coat of plates" oriental brigandines with riveted or sewn additional mirror plates, like this ? in this case mirrors are not additional armour which could be worn over chainmail or brigandine, but a part of brigandine (Idot (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2011 (UTC))[reply]
    • cf. there picture #5 shows separate mirror armouir worn over brignadine with short sleeves worn over chainmail, as sleeves of brigandine used as rerebraces (Idot (talk) 09:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC))[reply]

History[edit]

The history part of this lemma is extremely incomplete and eurocentric (did not know Armenia was in Europe by the way). The oldest pectoral discs, squares and what nots appear in Asia, in the Middle East, in early Iranian and Neo-Assyrian art. Pectoral discs have been in constant use in South Asia since antiquity as well (see fat little demons on the Sanchi Buddhist stupa and warriors on Hindu temples f.i. Deogarh) into the modern period, and from there traveled to Southeast Asia and China, and were probably reintroduced from South Asia to Central Asia and the Middle East in the medieval period.87.212.52.128 (talk) 06:59, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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