Talk:Monmouthshire County Council

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Pretty much every page has "Monmouthshire Council" in the <head> tag, but the ones with contact details on invariably say "Monmouthshire County Council". Morwen - Talk 14:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many councils use alternative or shortened forms in their communications material. The full name is still used officially and it would be right for an encyclopedia article to use the full name. MRSC 15:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Monmouthshire Council logo.gif[edit]

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Images of people[edit]

I've reverted the addition of the images of Cllr Peter Fox as Leader and Kellie Beirne as "Chief Officer". So far as I'm aware - and what is public knowledge - discussion of the leadership of the Council after last week's elections is still continuing. It has not - so far as I know - been publicly confirmed. Cllr Fox was Leader before the elections, but until the new authority meets, again so far as I know, he is not Leader at present. Whether the Leader of the authority should have a photo here anyway is, I think, debatable. And Kellie Beirne is one of several "chief officers" - she is not the Chief Executive. And, again, it's debatable whether any council officers should have their image on the authority's WP page. Happy to discuss further. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:53, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My bad for misunderstanding regarding Bernie's role; we should have an image of the Chief Executive, whoever that is. But we still list Fox as the leader in the infobox; and they list him as such on their website; so I'm going to restore that one. Getting a council to open-license pictures of all their councillors and chief officers is quite a coup (they did so in response to my blog post); we should make use of them, not least to encourage others to do so. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:21, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm... well, I suspect that Mon CC keeps its existing site up until there is something new to announce, so at best it could be seen as unhelpful for WP to be apparently "updating" its page based on outdated information. The fact is that the Conservatives lost their overall majority last week, so he may well not be the Leader in a few days time. Just an unfortunate coincidence of timing, but I still think it would be better to remove his image for the time being. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
AIUI, he remains the leader until he resigns, looses his seat, or is voted out by his fellow councillors. Obviously, when a new leader is announced,the pic can be swapped.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK.... While "getting a council to open-license pictures of all their councillors and chief officers" may be "quite a coup" in some senses, it doesn't necessarily justify actually using them. Does adding an image of a personally non-notable local councillor or officer, of what is a relatively small and unremarkable local authority, really add anything of encyclopedic significance? Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:49, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Your "personally non-notable" and "relatively small and unremarkable" comments are unsupportable; these are people elected or appointed to senior public positions, with attendant media coverage, legal powers, and budgetary responsibility comparable with significantly sized companies. Besides, we're hardly overwhelmed with images relevant to the county council. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:59, 10 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heraldic shield[edit]

I've removed File:MONMOUTHSHIRE Shield.svg because I'm not sure what status, if any, it has. It was added in this edit, and the image itself is described as "own work" by this editor. I haven't found any evidence of its use on the County Council website. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've resolved it to my own satisfaction at least, and reinstated what appears to be the official heraldic arms - but I don't think it should go in the infobox as it will be only be recognisable to a tiny minority, unlike the logo which is relatively ubiquitous. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Can you find the SI transferring the arms? For example [1] does not list Monmouthshire County Council. Owain (talk) 08:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to agree to it not being included at all, unless more reliable sources can be found. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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