Talk:Morton Birnbaum

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What did Birnbaum mean by suitable treatment, because psychiatric remedies are notoriously contested, there's the endless debate between medicinal/physical methods and psychological approaches, and what a person feels they need might conflict with what they system says they need Jingoizle (talk) 00:30, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong photo?[edit]

https://ispshealth.yale.edu/people/irwin-birnbaum

Someone keeps removing the photo from this article, but is he right? Or is this link wrong and it is indeed the subject of this article? Adam9007 (talk) 00:44, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The previous photo was wrong. The link was wrong Rbirnba3 (talk) 00:48, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He was not Irwin Birnbaum. Rather, Morton Birnbaum (not Irwin!!) Rbirnba3 (talk) 00:53, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now I'm confused. Who is the photo of, and who is this article about? Are they or are they not the same person? Adam9007 (talk) 00:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Irwin Birnbaum was a different person. The previous photo was of Irwin Birnbaum, NOT Morton Birnbaum. The previous photo was wrong. Rbirnba3 (talk) 00:58, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article is about Dr. Morton Birnbaum (Not Irwin Birnbaum). Rbirnba3 (talk) 00:59, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article cites sources about Irwin Morton Birnbaum. This is not the same person? Adam9007 (talk) 01:00, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No. Ref 4 and 17 are incorrect since they cite IRWIN Birnbaum. The article is about MORTON Birnbaum (not Irwin Birnbaum). Different people Rbirnba3 (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The other references and content are correct Rbirnba3 (talk) 01:04, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Morton is apparently Irwin's middle name, so I can understand the confusion if this is indeed wrong. Pinging Dcw2003 into this as he edited this article not so long ago, and might know more about this. Adam9007 (talk) 01:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm most sure of what I speak. Please do no repost the other photo of Irwin Birnbaum on this page. Rbirnba3 (talk) 01:17, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You Rbirnba3 (talk) 01:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry about that, but removing content without explanation is normally considered (or at least easily mistaken for) vandalism, and "Removed incorrect photo" is exactly the sort of fake excuse vandals sometimes use. Anyway, the file is up for discussion at Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2018_July_16#File:Morton.irwin.birnbaum.jpeg now. Adam9007 (talk) 01:31, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a vandal. I'm Morton Birnbaum's daughter. Rbirnba3 (talk) 02:54, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The photo that was posted was Irwin Birnbaum and it was wrong. Rbirnba3 (talk) 02:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I provided a justification. Rbirnba3 (talk) 02:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]