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Correct Spelling of "Oblest"?[edit]

The Russian word for "region" - область - is normally pronounced "oblest" as opposed to "oblast. As is true in English, there are many letters that are pronounced differently depending on the word used.

For example "что" is spelled like it should be pronounced "chtoa", but is actually pronounced as "што" (shtoa). [Ref: Русский? Легко! (Н. А. Метс, Н. А. Маркина) / Learn Russian? It's Quite Easy! (N. A. Mets, N. A. Markina) page 13, section 3 under "Memorize"] Even in the word "Russian" the "a" is pronounced as an "e".

As far as I know, it is common for translators to transliterate "область" as "oblest" to conform with the proper pronunciation of the word in Russian. (I don't have any hard references, but my wife has a Master's degree in both Russian and English and she is often called upon to translate stuff - and all the other Russian - English translators I know transliterate the word the same way.)

Jharris1993 (talk) 19:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of il-18[edit]

This Il-18 photo is taken at Sheremietievo-1 not at Domodedovo. --71.160.169.76 04:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The IL-18 Picture Labelled as a Tu-114[edit]

As noted, the photo of the static historic aircraft outside of the airport is indeed an IL-18, not a Tu-114. While the Tu-114 is exceedingly rare, the IL-18 is not only common, a number of them are still in revenue service, primarily as cargo aircraft. For comparitave purposes, this is what a Tu-114 looks like:

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/bwob/LD_Zaf114_2-05.jpg

In this context I am going to re-caption the picture to correct the plane's identity.

Bwob 14:07, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus. The problem here is that we need independent sources. I can find 'Domodedovo International Airport', 'Domodedovo Airport' and 'Moscow Domodedovo Airport' used, some on the same page from their web site! So the points raised about the web site being unreliable for sourcing seem to be correct. Free free to nominate again once the common name can be determined, conformance with WP:NAME established and supported by reliable sources. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Domodedovo International Airport → Moscow Domodedovo Airport — This airport has, as far I know, never been called "Domodedovo International Airport" – the full name used in English is Moscow Domodedovo Airport. Please see the airport website and the other external links; most of the sources calling it "Domodedovo International Airport" are media organisation reporting the recent bombing which appear to have copied Wikipedia's mistake. The Celestial City (talk) 17:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC) The Celestial City (talk) 17:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Domodedovo International Airport bombing → 2011 Moscow Domodedovo Airport bombing

Oppose seems pretty even on the number of references out there on the web. It may not be 100% precise but WP:COMMONNAME supersedes that. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. While the common name in English is debatable (and will rapidly change as sources expand), the official name carries a fair bit of weight with it in my estimation. Best to go with the official name, at least until the media settles down with a proper name. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 17:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Question where is the "official" name defined? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - On the airport's'website. The Celestial City (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Chase me. --John (talk) 17:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Chase me.--FormerIP (talk) 17:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It doesn't seem to be accurate to claim only recent sources are calling it Domodedovo International Airport. E.g. [1] [2]. This article was created in 2003 so it's theoretically possible they were influenced by us. Far more likely though, they were influenced by the airport themselves, who have used Domodedovo International Airport in the past [3] (2002), [4] (2004), [5] (2008) of which there is still plenty of sign of on their page [6], [7], [8], [9]. See [10]/[11] for more. I guess they've decided to call it Moscow Domodedovo Airport now since all the recent stuff on their site seems to call it that even if they haven't got around to updating quite a lot of stuff (I'm not referring to their news releases which probably shouldn't be updated). I would note they've also called it 'Moscow International Airport Domodedovo' several times in 2008-2009 (see this earlier ref [12] and also [13]). It would of course help if they could settle on a name in English and perhaps having done so make an annoucement and update all appropriate refs on their site... Nil Einne (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. --Dorsal Axe 17:59, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Support~~ Comment. A quick look a few other airport articles shows we generally go with the airport's official name - eg Suvarnabhumi Airport, London Heathrow Airport, Soekarno–Hatta International Airport (just the first three I checked). And I think it makes sense to use the official name unless there is a predominantly used common alternative. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, that's why I said the common name supersedes a (temporary) official name. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yep, I appreciate that, but I'm not really seeing a predominant preferred common name - UK news sources (like the BBC, Sky News) don't appear to be calling it "Domodedovo International". -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Agreed, but even the airport itself can't decide. And given an equal showing across the web on both names, I suggest the default position is to keep the status quo. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - Hmm, yes, coupled with your question above about how we know what the official name actually is, I understand what you mean. I do think the airport's own site is suggesting its official name is "Moscow Domodedovo Airport", as that's what the main pages and the copyright statement say, but as it's inconsistent across the site, that doesn't seem to be conclusive. I've changed my !vote to just a comment. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose at this time. As Nil Einne points out, this apparently used to be the official name. I'd like to know first whether this is a flavor-of-the-month change or something more permanent.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support' The current correct name should be given preference over past use and media misuse. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I know you're aware of WP:COMMONNAME, shouldn't that be given preference over a debatable website which, itself, is inconsistent in providing an "official" name? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - WP:COMMONNAME shouldn't be used to perpetuate names that either out of date or were inaccurate in the first place. But looking at Google News at the moment "Moscow Domodedovo Airport" gets 480 hits, "Domodedovo International Airport" gets 120 hits. (And for what it's worth I get Google web hits that are barely 5000 apart.) That suggests that the media is generally using the current name at the front end of the website & on the logo, and that most of the references to "Domodedovo International Airport" stem from dated material. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, given their own web site. Maybe they can't make up their minds as to what to call themselves in English. But, that doesn't mean we should play musical chairs every time they decide to change their web site. Google returns ~117k hits for "Domodedovo Airport", and ~156k for "Domodedovo International Airport". It's obvious that it is commonly referred to under the name we use here. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment On a specific phrase English only search I get 142,000 hits for "Moscow Domodedovo Airport" and 137,000 hits for "Domodedovo International Airport". That suggests the DIA name isn't even the most commonly used. The website seems to be a slow update but the name on the logo at the front is MDA. Timrollpickering (talk) 23:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment: The airport home page says DMA, not MDA. I think that's another reason to stick with DIA. -- Gabi S. (talk) 00:13, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Comment: Good point, so now we have 4 names, DIA (old name?), MDA (new name mostly?), MIAD (brief name?) and DMA (used in logo). Nil Einne (talk) 15:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Hammersoft. -DJSasso (talk) 19:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per links provided in comment by Nil Einne and the argument presented by Hammersoft. --- Barek (talk) - 19:23, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comments: after searching further, I see the name "Domodedovo International Airport" used in a logo on their site here; used on their site in the "About us", "Our history" section from 1997 through 2005 here; and used as recently as 2008 on their site in their "About us", "Our awards" section here; and the "Passenger's Info" section is currently using the name in their "Check-in" page. In all fairness, I found at least three other variants of the airport name used on other pages of their own site. But, there's clear evidence that the current name on the article is not sourced from original research; and that it has been used repeatedly by the airport itself, contrary to one of the comments in the nom, above. --- Barek (talk) - 00:48, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Hammersoft. It does indeed appear that "Domodedovo International" is the common name here, and nominator is obviously incorrect that the airport has never been called such. — Huntster (t @ c) 20:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If not Moscow Domodedovo Airport, why not simply move this page to Domodedovo Airport? I don't know where this "International" part comes from, certainly I have seen no airlines using that name. Why not simply go for the most obvious and straightforward title for this article, given the ambiguity over the name? The Celestial City (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well as several people have remarked, the International part comes from the airport themselves... Nil Einne (talk) 15:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is a no brainer after I visited the airports official website in English. I was leaning toward support until then. Common name in English should be used.--Jojhutton (talk) 02:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I just emailed the Feedback people for the airport's website to ask what they call it. I'm sure that they are inundated with stuff on the attack right now but if they respond I figure that will pretty much settle it one way or another.140.141.218.190 (talk) 09:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not really because common name can trump official name. -DJSasso (talk) 13:46, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support As per the IATA and availible information from Amadeus, the official name of DME is MOSCOW DOMODEDOVO AIRPORT 194.192.22.33 (talk) 12:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NAME, the official name is not always the best name for an article; frequently, consensus can support a common name that is found in multiple reliable sources. --- Barek (talk) - 15:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Technical landings[edit]

This section was added 25 September 2011, by User:95.188.209.218 and modified on 23 October 2011 by User:95.188.199.186. As nearly as I can tell, this refers to what the ICAO calls technical stops, which might also be called "refueling stops". The only other article in English Wikipedia with such a section is Ulan-Ude Airport.

This section lacks citations and I find no support for a Domodevo "technical landing" when using the airlines' websites. In addition, the entry for Afriqiyah Airways only lists one airport, not a departure airport and a destination. Was this supposed to reflect charter service instead of "technical landings"? If so, this section is not the correct location for this entry. --Chaswmsday (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Need sourcing? Yes. But tech stops should definitely not be in tables. HkCaGu (talk) 05:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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"TransGlobal"[edit]

Does anyone have any information on "TransGlobal" that would suggest it fly's to Domodedovo international Airport, as i can not find any information that would suggest this airline exists or flys to Domodedovo International Airport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.235.63 (talk) 19:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ak Bars Aero ??[edit]

It is still in the list for "Hub" in the infobox, but:

Due to financial difficulties, the airline filed for bankruptcy and suspended scheduled passenger services from 12 January 2015 and planned to lease its fleet of 15 CRJ200 aircraft to other airlines.^[1]^[2]^[3]

In the much longer list of airlines from October 2015 Aero is missing? So I remove it and hope it is ok and someone just forgot this? Greetings Kilon22 (talk) 19:11, 27 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "AK Bars Aero Suspends Flights". Airliner World: 10. March 2015.
^ Информация для пассажиров и партнеров АК БАРС АЭРО (in Russian). Ak Bars Aero. Retrieved 3 January 2015.
^ "New Carrier for Tatarstan". Airliner World: 8. July 2015.

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Moscow Domodedovo Airport/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Sections concerning airport command, control and communications, flight operations management and security, as they pertain specifically to established governmental and airport guidelines, policies and control systems could be added and greatly expanded. robertjohnsonrj 01:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 01:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 13:36, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Can someone remove Beijing Capital Airlines as the airline will now operate from Sheremetyevo International Airport instead of this airport from 5 July 2017 as per http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/272910/beijing-capital-airlines-revises-moscow-launch-to-july-2017/. 97.85.118.142 (talk) 06:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also Tianjin Airlines need to be removed as the airline will operate at Sheremetyevo International Airport as well. Source: http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/272909/tianjin-airlines-revises-planned-moscow-operation-from-june-2017/. 97.85.118.142 (talk) 06:23, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Already done Altamel (talk) 19:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Popular Culture[edit]

Add a new category about times it has been featured in popular culture. This airport was featured in MW2 as part of the controversal "No Russian" mission. Pancakes321 (talk) 01:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[AW-1] "AK Bars Aero Suspends Flights". Airliner World: 10. March 2015.

[2] Информация для пассажиров и партнеров АК БАРС АЭРО (in Russian). Ak Bars Aero. Retrieved 3 January 2015.

[3] "New Carrier for Tatarstan". Airliner World: 8. July 2015.

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