Talk:Moytoy of Tellico

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Regarding Moytoy II as a "Carpenter"[edit]

First, the reference went nowhere, so there was no pont in leaving it.

Second, Attakullakulla means "Leaning Wood" in Cherokee, which whites turned into "Little Carpenter" the same way they turned Tsiyugunsini, "He is dragging his canoe", into Dragging Canoe. The "Little" part came from his physical stature. The Carpenter part had nothing to do with any Euro family named Carpenter, and he was of no relation whatsover to the current British royal family. He also didn't have a single drop of Cherokee blood in his veins either; he was originally a Mishwakihha, one of the divisions of the Algonquin Nipissing, captured as an infant and adopted by one of the minor chiefs. That's according to his son, Turtle-at-Home. I mention that because the fantasy about their being a family called "Carpenters" related to the English noble family by that name originated from what Attakullakulla was called in English. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 06:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not colonial[edit]

Colonial implies at some level being under the power of a foriegn authorit. Moytoy of Tellico never recognied auhority beyond the Cherokees. He should not be classed as colonial.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:10, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of a number of discussions (started by John Pack Lambert) that are forked from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 November 16#Category:Tennessee colonial people. Rather than conduct discussions of this topic in a dozen different places, let's have just one discussion. Please continue the discussion at the WP:CFD page. --Orlady (talk) 06:06, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]