Talk:Murder of Jayne MacDonald

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Objection to deletion[edit]

Why would you nominate this article for deletion? There is a whole article about her murderer but nothing about the victim. Yet her death marked a change in the course of the investigation. It also brings up the issue of sexism in murder investigations and her mother made legal history by suing the murderer. Please give reasons why you don't think this is not worth an entry because this feels a lot like sexism to me.SandrinaHatman (talk) 03:00, 9 September 2020 (UTC) I also think it is morally wrong to include information about a female murder victim on the page of the male murderer and for her not to have to space to show who she was and how people felt about her. That is completely sexist and dehumanising of the victim. SandrinaHatman (talk) 03:07, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@SandrinaHatman: Wikipedia:"Murder of" articles gives the criteria for the creation of separate articles. If you believe that the Wikipedia guidance that was reached by consensus is wrong, then please separately raise the issue about the criteria and argue to the community about why it should be changed. Putting the complaint on an article talk page will be unseen and will be equivalent to yelling at the clouds. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:53, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You have misapplied what the article says. It says that that not all murder victims are notable and deserve a page - I agree. But you are deliberately deleting a page of a notable victim. This is inconsistent with eg victims of Jack the Ripper who all have pages. And with the pages of other notable female victims. The article you cite says that where there is coverage of the victim beyond locality they are notable. What don't you understand about this? My problem is with your judgement and actions, not the article per se. I will address the embedded sexism within that separately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SandrinaHatman (talkcontribs) 04:15, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]