Talk:Nancy Diamond

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Does Nancy Diamond have a husband? Does she have any kids? How many kids does she has? What are her kids' names? What is her husband's name?

Unless and until her husband and kids get named in reliable sources, we neither know nor care. In fact, our WP:BLPNAME policy explicitly prohibits us from going out of our way to find out any details about her family that cannot be located in reliable source media coverage — so if we can't find it in a news article, we can't print it even if some Wikipedia user claims personal private knowledge. Bearcat (talk) 19:44, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is Nancy Diamond's husband's first name? How many sons or daughters do you think Nancy Dimaond has?[edit]

How many sons or daughters do you think Councillor Diamond has? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.146.225.179 (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the response to the above comment (which I'm pretty sure was also posted by you, since that IP's edit history of being exclusively interested in mayors of Oshawa and/or The Simpsons trivia dovetails neatly with your own.)

Until such time as we can find reliable source coverage which explicitly names her husband and kids, we have no way to know, and no legitimate reason to care about, their names. This is not information that anybody who is not Nancy Diamond herself has an inalienable right to know — until media coverage can be found which verifies their names, their own personal privacy rights trump any other consideration. Her public role as mayor is what we care about — her private life with her own family is none of our or anybody else's business, except insofar as that information can be verified in reliable sources.

I point you to the following quote from WP:BLPNAME:

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The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons. The names of any immediate, ex, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject. However, names of family members who are not also notable public figures must be removed from an article if they are not properly sourced.

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That is not a suggestion — it's an inviolable, non-negotiable policy, which must be followed. We are not allowed to add such information to the article without a source on the basis of anybody's private personal knowledge, and we are not allowed to go down to the Oshawa courthouse to try to dig into private personal records ourselves to find it — until their names can be explicitly located in media coverage, they cannot be added to our article about Nancy Diamond at all. Bearcat (talk) 18:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oshawa's Nancy Diamond Has A Brother[edit]

Did you guys know that Oshawa's councillor Nancy Diamond has a brother named W. Ross? His full name is W. Ross Darling according to the website. And Nancy Diamond's brother is actually born in 1938 in Sudbury Ontario. Did you guys know all that? Her brother died in 2014. Did you guys know all that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.144.229 (talk) 18:44, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He isn't a notable person in his own right, and Wikipedia is not a family genealogy website — so there's absolutely no reason why we would or should record or note her brother's life and death on here. Again, this article is about her public life as a politician, and is not a place for extemded discussion of her entire family. The only part of this that might be of even marginal interest for our purposes is the circumstantial evidence it provides that "Darling" is likely to be Diamond's own maiden name — and even then we would require an actual reliable source to indicate that, and cannot just rely on some anonymous IP asserting personal knowledge on the talk page (or even on the possibility of finding Ross Darling's obituary on the website of a funeral home.)

Long story short, just stop it already — unless you can find a reliable source to verify both the accuracy of the information and a substantive reason why readers should actually be interested in knowing it, the information you're providing is not our concern. Bearcat (talk) 14:09, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]