Talk:Naomi Novik

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"First Generation"?[edit]

A first generation American is someone who immigrates. His or her children are second generation. She can't be a first generation American who was born in America. Any better biographical info?

There is an ongoing controversy over this definition (try Googling "first-generation American", to see what I mean). The consensus (if one exists) is that the parents are "immigrants"; the first people BORN in the USA are "first-generation Americans". Hope that helps. Raymondwinn (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"Naomi Novik and Transformers Fandom"[edit]

Random trivia: Naomi is/was a very avid Transformers fan, and for a number of years in the 1990's was the headwiz of Transformers 2005 MUSH. She did a considerable amount of the coding and building on the game and was an active presence until the late 90's. Unfortunately there is inadequate sourcing for most of this, as it's tribal knowledge among the people who played on that game during that timeframe. The only thing that solidly ties her to the community comes from notes on various websites (such as the one above, or the Transformers Online Encyclopedia that are sourced to her, and from her posting history on alt.toys.transformers.

Attitudes toward fanfiction[edit]

As part of the fan fiction project [1] I think that articles of SciFi authors who have been strongly involved either Pro or Anti fanfic should reflect that stance. Naomi, clearly, would be a "Pro" fanfic author. Any thoughts on where this information would best go in the sci fi authors template? Sherrold (talk) 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The term "SciFi" is perjorative. Please do not use it to describe anything more serious than Buck Rogers. And at that, I may malign Buck Rogers. As for Naomi Novik, I think some attention should be paid to the controversy surrounding the OTW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.68.103 (talk) 02:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In your opinion, perhaps. I've never bought into the "speculative fiction" moniker if that's your preference; SciFi works fine for me. If there's controversy around the Organization for Transformative Works, it should probably be covered in its article (which as of this writing doesn't exist), unless it involves Naomi Novik more than the organization itself. - Fordan (talk) 05:35, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is the controversy you're referring to the one covered in Legal issues with fan fiction, which does link to the non-existant OTW article? - Fordan (talk) 05:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the usage of the term "SciFi" has shifted. When I was active in Fandom during the early to mid 1980's "SciFi" was definitely a pejorative and looked down upon by the vast majority of fans. Pronounced "skiffy" and used mostly by what we called "fringe fans" and the media in those days. People who didn't know any better in other words. The preferred term was SF (Ess Eff). That said, "SciFi" has become so commonplace in the "real" world that it is more acceptable to use it and is the one you will usually hear. Older fans, especially literary fans that have been around a long time still tend to use, and to prefer, "SF".Hawkechik (talk) 22:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there is any controversy surrounding the OTW specifically (as opposed to fanfiction and legality in general) that is notable by Wikipedia standards. There's plenty of non-notable controversy, but information about fandom feuds belongs on the Fandom Wank wiki or perhaps Fanlore or some other fandom-related wiki. If people want to know about that stuff, they can find it easily enough without it cluttering up Wikipedia. Franzeska (talk) 18:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reviews and external links[edit]

A number of the "reviews" and "external links" in the article do not comply with Wikipedia's policy on external links, in that they are not official sites of the article's subject and do not contain material relevant to an encyclcopaedic understanding which cannot be integrated into the article for copyright reasons. I'm particularly referring to the interviews and the reviews. Relevant information from these sources can be integrated into the article. Can I suggest editors take the steps to integrate any such relevant material? At a later date if the links still remain in the article in their current form they will be deleted in accordance with the external links policy. - DustFormsWords (talk) 02:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

COI[edit]

I see the COI tag has been added to this page. I'm curious what the frequent edits are supposed to be, and how they are considered problematic. Actually, very hard to see how they're problematic when it's not clear what they are. I'm skipping R and going straight to D of WP:BRD as a way to WP:AGF, but will drop back to the R if we can't get a conversation going. SamBC(talk) 13:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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