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I don't have a cite for this, but a mythology professor of mine in college researched the etymology of the town Gnaw Bone, Indiana (USA). If he is to be believed, the name originates from the French settlers calling the town "New Narbonne" and the residents of the town (who were not French speakers, and the majority of whom were illiterate) began corrupting the words through common useage. Fast forward a few hundred years and we're left with Gnaw Bone, Indiana. If you feel this doesn't belong in this article, feel free to delete, I just thought it was interesting.--Legomancer 08:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It could be mentioned but it would need a citation. --Alexxx1 ^{(talk/contribs)} 00:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Narbonne is relevant to Gnaw Bone, Indiana, but not vice versa. --Wetman 18:21, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fascinating story, Legomancer! Although if to be belived, the people were simply calling it "Narbonne", not "New Narbonne". For "gnaw bone" does sound very much like the French pronunciation of "Narbonne". [I haven't created a Wiki account yet, but I will soon and will edit this entry to reflect it. My name is Laura Morland and I'm an American who has owned an apartment in Narbonne since 2005.]

Added the emirate of cordoba. see the article Charles Martel for corroboration. the Arabs were there between the Visigoths and Franks. the town was liberated by his son Peppin II.--Will314159 22:02, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Additional relevant material is at Septimania. -18:21, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Jewish Rule?[edit]

In the Article about Ardo, the last king of the Visigoths, it mentions that Narbonne was ruled by the Jews in 720. Is this something anyone has heard about as it seems notable to include in this article. Valley2city 15:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is that there existed a Jewish principality in the Frankish realm, vassal to the Carolingian kings, so it wasn't a kingdom. Their leader wasn't a king but rather a Nāśī. It is mostly advocated by a certain Arthur Zuckerman. His theory has been widely dismissed by historians in general ^[1]^[2]^[3]. --kozaki (talk) 22:35, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Cosman, Madeleine Pelner, and Linda Gale Jones Handbook to life in the medieval world Facts on File, 2008. Page 316.
^ Cohen, Jeremy. "The Nasi of Narbonne: A Problem in Medieval Historiography." AJS Review 2 (1977): 45-76.
^ Taylor, Nathaniel L. "Saint William, King David, and Makhir: A Controversial Medieval Descent." American Genealogist 72 (1997): 205-224.

Babylonian rabbi allegedly invited by Pepin the Short[edit]

The source for [Pepin the Short, father of Charlemagne] invited [in 759], according to Christian sources, prominent Jews from the Caliphate of Bagdad to settle in Narbonne and establish a major Jewish learning center for Western Europe. clearly states "in the Thirteenth Century", which in my view leads to caution as a reference for an event of the eighth century. --kozaki (talk) 22:35, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Cosman, Madeleine Pelner, and Linda Gale Jones Handbook to life in the medieval world Facts on File, 2008. Page 316.

[2] Cohen, Jeremy. "The Nasi of Narbonne: A Problem in Medieval Historiography." AJS Review 2 (1977): 45-76.

[3] Taylor, Nathaniel L. "Saint William, King David, and Makhir: A Controversial Medieval Descent." American Genealogist 72 (1997): 205-224.

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