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Edit: Richard Burton was from Pontrhydyfen , which is a village outside of Port Talbot, not Neath. Edit:Surely if Pontrhydyfen is outside Port talbot then it is also outside Neath,perhaps it would be better described as between the two towns although nowadays they are known as, the borough of Neath and Port Talbot.I come from Briton Ferry,Which is also Between the two towns. Edit: Often certain villages and towns are considered to be linked with either Neath or Port Talbot, usually linking to what valley they are in. I can't provide verifcation for this, but generally I've seen places with SA10 and SA11 postcodes being considered part of Neath and places with SA12 and SA13 postcodes being considered part of Port Talbot. Pontrhydyfen has an SA12 postcode which would generally mean it's part of Port Talbot. However, it may be worth noting that the Pelenna Electoral Ward, which contains Pontrhydyfen and Tonmawr, does maintain stronger links with Neath due to its proximity to Cimla and notably falls in the Cefn Saeson Comprehensive School catchment area. Again, apologies for the lack of verification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.89.26.64 (talk) 10:19, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictions[edit]

The article gives several different figures for population Lord Cornwallis (talk) 02:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable People[edit]

I've rewritten this section, which included re-formatting it, alphabetizing it and adding some overlooked persons. I was unaware of any policy of inclusion, so included anyone who has stayed in Neath of note. Many of the lesser-known individuals were found through research in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography - I only included this reference, however, where I felt that there would be any kind of dispute over the information. Michael Andrews, --78.105.52.52 (talk) 15:21, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Population figures[edit]

Where has the value of 45-47000 come from? The article starts by mentioning the community of Neath, but this has a population of 19,258 in the 2011 census [1]. I imagine that several of the towns around Neath have been aggregated to give the 47k, but in that case it should be made clear which ones. The current citation for the population size is dead. Gareth (talk) 14:54, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's from the 2001 census, Key Statistics for Urban Areas Pondle (talk) 21:51, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. Those statistics are for the Neath urban area, which adds in the towns across the river and probably Briton Ferry. I'll edit the article to make that clear. Gareth (talk) 14:17, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To prevent confusion I believe the population of Neath should be changed to the reflect the Built up area of Neath, which is 50,658, as they do for the Wiki articles for Port Talbot and Llanelli (among others). The population of the parish of Neath is 19,258, which is quoted in the into. Can I suggest changing the intro to "Neath (/niːθ/; Welsh: Castell-nedd) is a town and community situated in the principal area of Neath Port Talbot, Wales. The community of Neath Parish has a population of 19,258 in 2011[2] within the built up area of Neath which has a population of 50,658 in 2011.[2]" or similar. Also reference 2 is no longer available, but this can change to https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/localarea?compare=W38000135.

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Notable people[edit]

@IsCas:, you have repeated added an entry like the following to the Notable people section, and I have twice removed it:

  • Stella Orrin (2005-), climate and youth activist
https://www.inyourarea.co.uk/news/mock-election-ends-in-a-win-for-neath-port-talbot-youngsters/
https://www.teachthefuture.uk/wales

Lists of notable people in articles about places are generally for people who have biographical articles in Wikipedia, see the guideline at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/Settlements: Article structure#Notable people. Some editors including me favour extending this to include people who can be shown to have sufficient notability to qualify for a Wikipedia article, see WP:NLIST and WP:NBIO. There is no Wikipedia article on Stella Orrin. The inyourarea link says that she is a member of Neath Port Talbot’s Youth Council, was one of five of its members who won a mock election organised by the Senedd, and that she attends a school in Neath Port Talbot. The teachthefuture link does not mention her. This does not come close to the threshold in WP:NBIO. My Google seatch for "Stella Orrin" did not indicate any other significant notability. Do you have any sources that clearly establish her notability? Verbcatcher (talk) 16:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There has been no response so I have removed the entry again. Verbcatcher (talk) 22:15, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

William FitzRobert[edit]

Would someone wish to expand the Mediaeval History section with information taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_FitzRobert,_2nd_Earl_of_Gloucester, which states that William FitzRobert was responsible for granting Neath a town charter - certainly a notable point in the town's history. I would add such information myself, but the article on William FitzRobert contains no citations. 2A0C:5BC0:40:10C0:B57A:323B:74A9:6F27 (talk) 18:48, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The section could be further expanded with information (this time with citations) from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_de_Grenville, as Richard de Grenville was responsible for the founding of Neath Abbey and the construction of Neath Castle, both important items in the town's history which are currently absent from the article. 2A0C:5BC0:40:10C0:B57A:323B:74A9:6F27 (talk) 19:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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