Talk:News World Communications

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Hoovers[edit]

Hoover's says:

News World Communications is a newspaper publishing company owned by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church. The company publishes The Washington Times, which reaches more than 100,000 readers in the Washington, DC, area. It also produces the news magazine Insight Magazine, as well as international publications The Middle East Times (Cairo) and Tiempos del Mundo (weekly Spanish-language newspaper distributed in Latin America and the US). In 2000 the company added struggling news service United Press International to its portfolio. Moon began publishing the Times in 1982, but has reportedly lost more than $1 billion on the venture. [1]

From the article: A primary factor leading to the perennial insolvency of the Washington Times is its inability to overcome advertisers' reluctance to associate with "Moonies".

While this may be true, what is the source of this claim? 24.155.88.186 16:26, 28 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV terms[edit]

The Times is editorially conservative. They do not describe themselves as a conservative newspaper and the label is POV. It's like saying the Wall Street Journal is conservative or the Washington Post is liberal. It's a POV term that is really only applicable to the editorial page. --Tbeatty 06:54, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is article really needed?[edit]

The individual articles on the Washington Times, UPI, and the Unification Church itself already explain the church ownership of them. Do we really need an article on this company which contains no new information? It seems to me anyway. Kitfoxxe (talk) 23:08, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having an article on UC media holdings is probably useful. By usual WP standards it would pass a AfD. Steve Dufour (talk) 06:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to disagree -- very little of this article is sourced, an even smaller fraction is third-party-sourced, and almost none of that is about the core company (as opposed to the more notable subsidiaries). Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 07:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do see your reasoning, both of you, but I don't think it makes sense to say a parent company is not notable or worth an article when at least some of the subsidiary companies it owns are. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does make sense. The New York Times is notable, the Ochs-Sulzberger family trust is not. Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED and a notable business is often owned by an obscure holding company, trust, etc, etc. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 03:38, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. I would vote for deletion then. On the other hand an article on "Unification Church news media" could be written with the same info and it would probably pass AfD. Steve Dufour (talk) 05:05, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it could not "be written with the same info", as it would have to actually provide sources for what information it did contain & WP:SECONDARY sources to justify its existence. These contraints would lead to a very different article. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk^(P) 06:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will try nominating it for deletion then. The article really tells us nothing about News World Communications itself. Kitfoxxe (talk) 20:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. After thinking about it some more I decided to change my mind and vote keep. Steve Dufour (talk) 23:30, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent events[edit]

The section on the recent events at the Washington Times, I don't think, really belongs in this article. It's already covered in the Times' own article and the sources do not mention News World itself. If the Times is sold then of course that should be mentioned. Steve Dufour (talk) 09:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is News World still owned by the Unification Church? I have heard that Rev. Moon's son left the church and took News World with him. Kitfoxxe (talk) 14:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you can say he left the church. He has some major disagreements with his father, but he's certainly still part of the church. I'm also not sure about what the status of News World is right now. Anyway I am going to take off the section since the sources don't mention News World itself, only the Washington Times. When RS's cover News World then that information should be added to the article. Steve Dufour (talk) 16:26, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]