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Pix[edit]

I want to request a picture --TeePee-20.7 12:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

Thankyou whoever posted the picture its much appreciated. TeePee-20.7 15:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be posting citations for this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrNaf (talk • contribs) 12:11, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Assessment[edit]

I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and information than would be expected of a Stub, and of low importance as I do not feel that this animal plays a strong role in understanding Canada. Cheers, CP 15:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC) Ryan M Bozora still loves morgan e[reply]

Mackenzie Wolf and Timber Wolf[edit]

Mackenzie Valley Wolf article related question at Talk:Timber Wolf. --EarthFurst (talk) 18:55, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The name is WRONG[edit]

The Mackenzie Valley article redirects to Mackenzie River, and there is already a wolf living there called c. l. mackenzii. This article has mixed up the names of the Rocky Mountain wolf (occidentalis) with that of the Mackenzie River wolf (mackenzii). I've tried renaming the page Rocky Mountain wolf, but it has not worked. This should be remedied by someone who knows the procedureMariomassone (talk) 10:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Need detailed map showing state boundaries and original and current distribution[edit]

Opponents of the reintroduction of wolves into the north western states maintain that this wolf is not native to the area. I think this article needs two detailed maps showing the state boundaries and the original and current distribution of the species, actually the two maps should show both this species and the Buffalo Wolf. The maps on the wolf subspecies pages do not show state boundaries. -- Dougher (talk) 19:59, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

need more physical characteristics[edit]

like height, length, weight, etc... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.66.124 (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Northwestern wolf[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Northwestern wolf's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "rutledge":

From Coywolf: Rutledge, L. Y.; White, B. N.; Row, J. R.; Patterson, B. R. (2012). "Intense harvesting of eastern wolves facilitated hybridization with coyotes". Ecology and Evolution. 2 (1): 19–33. doi:10.1002/ece3.61. PMC 3297175. PMID 22408723.
From Eastern wolf: "Intense harvesting of eastern wolves facilitated hybridization with coyotes". Ecology and Evolution. 2 (1): 19–33. 2012. doi:10.1002/ece3.61. PMC 3297175. PMID 22408723. Retrieved 2013-07-01. {{cite journal}}: Cite uses deprecated parameter |authors= (help)

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weight Data[edit]

False information was written from the Ralph Maughan Source. If you read carefully, you will see that the wolves are way smaller than said and clearly do not average 56.1 kg for males.

In text "Northwestern wolves are one of the largest subspecies of wolves. In British Columbia, Canada, five adult females averaged 42.5 kg (94 lb) and ten adult males averaged 56.1 kg (124 lb), with a weight range for all adults of 38.6 to 69.4 kg (85 to 153 lb).[9]

No wolves from the Ralph Maughan Source reached 69.4 kg or 153 lbs. That is in fact, the heaviest wolf (Wolf #663M) of the Yellowstone Delta Pack in 2013, that weighed 153 lbs. However, he was on a full belly being captured on a kill. Wolves can store up to 10 kg (22 lbs) of meat in their stomach (L.D. Mech, personal communication).

Wolf #760M, however, if you look at the yellowstone wolf fact sheet, weighed 148 lbs (67.1 kg) on an empty stomach. He was also from the Yellowstone Delta Pack.

I believe the source error might be negligence or confusion with another source that was added in the text article, which is plausible.

Gimly24 (talk) 20:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Everything is exaggerated in that or so. Males wolves in Yellowstone average around 50 kg not 62 kg. Gimly24 (talk) 20:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This article need serious revision. Gimly24 (talk) 20:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I did the corrections based on the sources already given (today, August 20 2021) Gimly24 (talk) 21:26, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The sources given for the weights are incorrdctly quoted. The weights are exagerated. I have the referenced book "CANIDS OF THE WORLD Wolves, Wild Dogs, Foxes, Jackals, Coyotes, and Their Relatives José R. Castelló".

Here is the quoted physical specs

"Length: 112-170cm. Height: 68-91cm. Weight: Male: 45-66kg Female: 36-59kg"

That puts top weight for males at 146lb not the exagerated 159lb

Further down the length is greatly exaggerated from offical measures. The reference sources used for the current 6ft and even 7ft claims are mere webpage blogs and forum posts with no references what so ever to support ANY of the data. Not even poor ones.

Therefore the references from: "CANIDS OF THE WORLD Wolves, Wild Dogs, Foxes, Jackals, Coyotes, and Their Relatives José R. Castelló". Published in 2018

Which is the most current work and is supported by offical published data & studies should be the authority barring introduction of other reputable sourced data. Animal Planet Forums and Q&A are not offical data or quality references nor is the blog page Both here for ref:

https://comicanimals.com/post/how-big-is-a-northwestern-wolf

https://a-z-animals.com/blog/the-10-largest-wolves-in-the-world/.

For a blog to be used at a minimum should site quality references such as university or agency data etc. Which in that case those references are what should be used. Anyone can write a blog or post on a forum without any requirement for accuracy or legitmacy. Even with refeences they should always be checked and confirmnthe actual data. If for no other reason that confirming no typos or other clerical errors were made. Further claims such as those where weight was greatly exceedingnthose above were all stated to have very full stomachs from kills made mere hours before which can add 30 even 40lbs to bodyweight.

I will wait to see if there is debate these data corrections before making the changes. After a week I will make the corrections if they have not been made to reflect the data quoted above for length, height and weight.

The reference book quoted data comes from numerous official reputable research studies. 98.249.21.235 (talk) 10:38, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Artificially relocated is incorrect[edit]

The wolf introduced to Yellowstone is a native species. There are many peer reviewed scientific papers that state that fact. The current wording if the article is politically charged and incorrect. Please fix it asap 162.211.130.129 (talk) 23:16, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]