Talk:Obscured by Clouds/Archive 1

Archive 1

Rolling Stone Link

This link is coming up blank when I try it. Anyone else having same problem? If no-one says to the contrary in next 2 weeks I'll delete it Martyn Smith 07:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I zapped said link. If you look at the page history, you'll notice i fixed it first, but since even the working link had no actual review, i just took it out. --Alcuin 04:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Sibilants

"in an interview that appeared in the "Director's Cut" edition of Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii, Roger Waters stated that early pressings of the album contained excessive sibilants in the vocal tracks, a problem that was corrected in later pressings." Wasn't Waters referring to early pressings of Atom Heart Mother? I'll go check the DVD when I get a chance. Dino246 15:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

My mistake. He was indeed referring to ObC. The reference stays. Dino246 (talk) 15:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

*Bad* POV . . . "Gilmour good, Waters bad, baaa."

The melody played in Wright's "Burning Bridges" is echoed later in "Mudmen" with David Gilmour's reconstruction of the song.

Gilmour's reconstruction of the song? Say what?? I don't hear Gilmour doing any "reconstruction", I hear him soloing while Rick, Nick, and Roger carry the song. "Mudmen" can't be said to be "reconstructed", anyway . . . It's just "Burning Bridges" in 4/4 instead of 3/4. That's all there is to it. It's still Rick Wright's music. Why on earth they decided to give Dave a credit for doing nothing more than his usual guitar work, I have no idea -- but remember, this was around the same time Roger Waters decided to give Nick Mason credit for "Speak To Me" on DSOTM -- a gift, for the sake of royalties. There's nothing you could actually call rewriting here.

Gilmour seemed to be the band's driving force behind this project.

Seems to you. And maybe many other people. But it's not a fact.

His lead guitar work is very prominent throughout the album, particularly on "The Gold It's in the..." which he sings himself.

"Which he sings himself"? You mean, as opposed to all those songs on which Roger and Rick held him down and poked him in the diaphragm until the right sounds came out of his mouth?

The song "Childhood's End" was credited only to Gilmour without his usual help from Roger Waters in the lyrical department, however Waters contributed the lyrics to all other songs. It is said to have been inspired by Arthur C. Clarke's novel of the same name, though this is not borne out by the lyrics.

That last statement's arguable, but whatever.

Roger Waters only wrote one song by himself . . . .

Aargh . . . while co-writing just about every other song on the album, you mean? Lord, the spin in here is making me DIZZY.

Roger Waters only wrote one song by himself, "Free Four," but his minimal songwriting did not go un-noticed.

Wait. Little Davy Gilmour writes a song by himself, and he's the "driving force", but when Mean Ol' Rog writes a song by himself, that's "minimal"? Excuse me, but WHOSE name is that, that keeps appearing in the songwriting credits to nearly every song on the album, again??

Do you like to tell outright lies, too? Or do you just confine yourself to massive distortion and intellectual dishonesty?

--63.25.8.245 (talk) 20:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

63.25.8.245 - Although I realise that you seem to enjoy the bravery of being out of range by not signing your comments with any identifiable moniker, accusing people of lying when you have a different POV is not considered good form and could actually get you banned.NH89.240.224.186 (talk) 00:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to be take part of the discussion above, but I have removed sentences which contains speculation and POV. Floyd (talk) 09:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Reclassification-Quality

I have been bold and reclassified the article's quality. It would take a large stretch of the imagination to call this a stub. John Wormell (talk) 04:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Removed non-english content

Segunda trilha sonora do Pink Floyd para um filme de Barbet Schroeder. Com a fórmula de compor a gravar rápido se assemelhando a de More é possível traçar uma evolução clara da banda em apenas três anos. A superioridade do material salta aos olhos, bem como a maior consistência nos arranjos e segurança nos vocais, principalmente Gilmour, que também acaba se saindo melhor que a encomenda como letrista da boa "Childhood's End". Apesar de não trazer nenhum clássico da magnitude de "Echoes", por exemplo, o álbum conta com o grande triunfo da regularidade. A exceção do roquinho chinfrim "The Gold is in the..."existe um equilíbrio qualitativo capaz de garantir uma audição sem que se tenha que levantar a agulha ou programar as melhores no caso do CD. Merecem destaque as duas contribuições de Wright: "Stay" e "Burning Bridges", a belíssima "Wots...Uh the deal", uma ode ao prazer de viajar e a sardônica "Free Four", com Waters exorcizando mais uma vez o fantasma da morte de seu pai na guerra e quase detonando toda a atmosfera intimista. "Obscured By Clouds" apanha o Floyd em ponto de bala para Dark Side of the moon . Em tempo: quem procurar um filme chamado "Obscured By Clouds" não irá achar nada. A película de Schoreder sobre hippies franceses indo para Nova Guiné era, na verdade intitulada "La Valée".

this was already copied here but i took it off from the article.. i'm sure this portuguese content is interesting but it needs translation before inclusion.. --zen

This is the translation in English:

Second soundtrack of Pink Floyd for a film of Barbet Schroeder. With the formula of writing to record fast resembling the More we can trace a clear evolution of the band in just three years. The superiority of the material strikes the eye as well as greater consistency in security arrangements and the vocals, especially Gilmour, who also ends up doing better than the order as good lyricist of "Childhood's End. " Despite not bringing any classic of the magnitude of "Echoes, "for example, the album features the great triumph of regularity. Except the Roquinho shabby "The Gold is in the ..." there is a qualitative balance capable of without a hearing if they have to lift the needle or the best plan in case the CD. We stress the contributions of two Wright: "Stay" and "Burning Bridges", the beautiful "WOTS ... Uh the deal, " an ode to the joy of travel and the sardonic "Free Four ", with Waters again exorcising the ghost the death of his father in the war and almost all the rockin intimate atmosphere. "Obscured By Clouds"and take the Floyd at gunpoint to Dark Side of the Moon. In time, those looking for a movie called "Obscured By Clouds" will not find anything. Schroeder's film about French hippies going to New Guinea was actually entitled "La Vale ".

I actually used Google Translate; some of it isn't very accurate. Also, it reads like a review and will need to be modified. Bulldog73 (talk) 01:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

The Gold, It's In The...

could someone please make an article page for this song? it happens to be the only released pink floyd song without one, and i'm sure it would be helpful or interesting to every pink floyd lover. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mouthsinstatic (talk • contribs) 01:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't be a studio album!

Why doed you write on the template that Obscured by Clouds bes a studio album? I've getted the cd, but on the retro it says it is a soundtrack. Who telled you it bes a studio album? So I propose to delete Obscured by Clouds from the studio albums cathegory. 151.25.255.45 (talk) 14:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

No, it was a studio album based on the soundtrack they had previously recorded. This is explained in the opening lede. I suggest you do not make any changes to category information without first obtaining consensus here. Careful With That Axe, Eugene ^Hello... 08:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Eh well, which soundtrack have-they recorded previously? n Sifflet sur la rue 28 may 2011, 11:46 (FR) —Preceding undated comment added 09:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC).

The Gold It's In The...

I hardly see it being fair that every song on this album has an article except for this song. The four instrumentals get articles, but not this song? Every studio song from Piper at the Gates Of Dawn to The Wall has it's own article, except this song... I can't stress enough how weird and how desperately needed to be fixed this is. Right? --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 16:50, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Oscurecido por las nubes.bien si es un album de estudio,aunque luego se usara tambien,para la banda sonora de la pelicula,el valle,como se diria en castellano.Me ha sorprendido el hecho,de que antes en el articulo "hace tiempo" se dijera de que es un album de poca calidad,segun lo corroboraba la revista rolling stone,y algunos criticos mas´y ahora este´cambiado en el sentido de que en el articulo pone, que tuvo exito,en francia,reino unido y menos en EE.UU debido ha la poca promocion de su discografica y tal...yo no se´cual es la verdad,pues existe una gran contradiccion en la version anterior y esta. peter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.224.105.247 (talk) 23:35, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Well beside the fact I had to translate that... (If I comment in a language please respond in that language) Obscured By Clouds is not a bad album and it really bothers me when people say it is. If every song from Piper to The Wall has an article, but this one, obviously it should be changed no matter what YOUR opinion is. It was an amazing album in my opinion by the way... --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 06:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Crystal Voyager

I think I expected to see Crystal Voyager appear in the Soundtracks Chronology section rather than The Wall. Or must it be music specifically composed or the film? 92.31.216.62 (talk) 18:48, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Obscured by Clouds/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 09:04, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• How can I resist? My favourite of the Pink Floyd soundtracks, will review soon. I don't think every single song warrants a stub, but that's not your problem... FunkMonk (talk) 09:04, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't either, but I'm going to revisit that at a later date. I've struggled to find source material, and the article is a bit shorter than I'd have anticipated, but the general Floyd sources only give it a cursory mention. It is absolutely an overlooked gem in the Floyd discography. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:28, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

In that case, individual articles are even less warranted; if so little information is available, it should be concentrated here. FunkMonk (talk) 09:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you, but if I'm going to get a repeat of this and this, I may lose the will to live :-/ Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:12, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

A Sisyphean task indeed, just had to make that joke... FunkMonk (talk) 10:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• "designed by Hipgnosis" Do we know by who specifically? Storm Thorgerson perhaps?

It was Storm and Po. I've got another source and added a few other tidbits. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:41, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Nice! FunkMonk (talk) 09:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• "Barbet Schroeder" Could he be introduced (French director or some such)?
• "for La Vallée" State that it is a film, and what kind, perhaps (so we don't think it's a short film or such)?
• "they had agreed to do after More had become a success." Could one "had" be cut, maybe? Seems repetitive.

I've rewritten this portion which addresses all three above issues in one go. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• "working on The Dark Side of the Moon at this point" Though this seems obvious, perhaps state this was a "regular" album?

I've copyedited this; I've said DSOTM is "another album" in this context and whether or not Obscured By Clouds is a "regular" album seems to be open to debate. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• "Arthur C Clarke" C.?

Fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• Is there no more description of the songs themselves available?

I've dropped in an intro and reorganised the mention of the VCS3. The article said this is the second album to feature it, which is kind-of-correct as it had already been recorded for DSOTM by that point, but Obscure by Clouds was the first use of it to be commercially released. I've changed it to just "featured the VCS3" to avoid this.

• "was issued in the US only." Not stated in the article body.

D'oh, fixed Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• Perhaps mention the name of the French studio in the article body as well?

Don't see why not Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

• Another quick one finished, so I'll pass this now. And thanks for deleting that malformed redirect I made! --FunkMonk (talk) 12:56, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for the review and a big shout out to JG66 for giving it a bit of a spit and polish too. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:00, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Strawberry Studio?

Perhaps a Pink Floyd expert could clarify which studio(s) this album was recorded in. The article's infobox currently lists both Strawberry Studio in London, and the Chateau Studios in France. Is this an error? Because the Chateau studios had multiple names over time, including "Strawberry Studios". So perhaps the album was only recorded in France? Design (talk) 03:25, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Design: My "go-to" source, Echoes: The Complete History of Pink Floyd says "Strawberry Studios" on p. 344 and clarifies this as "Strawberry Studios, Chateau d'Hérouville, Paris" on p.166. Since the GA review (which mentioned Paris cited to Povey, correctly), an IP added something not in the source given, and Aria1561 (talk · contribs) wrongly added the reference to Manchester in this edit on 12 January, which again wasn't in the source given. So there's your answer. Aria1561, have a trout slap and read WP:V please. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)