Talk:Ohio State University attack

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E.M.Gregory, I don't think it's even possible that the longer name (with the unnecessary disambiguator) is more common. It's not natural. Google seems to confirm this. It gives me 2.950 results for "2016 Ohio State University attack" -wikipedia and 12.600 results for "Ohio State University attack" -wikipedia -"2016 ohio state university attack". Besides, the unnecessary disambiguation is against WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE. Surtsicna (talk) 11:40, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

• User:Surtsicna. I'm sure you're right about that search. But the thing is, - date, place - is now the standard way of naming terrorist attacks on Wikipedia. I think the "dated" the style is useful. Take a look at 2017 New York City attack#See also. However, if you feel strongly, feel free to start a discussion here. It's not a firm rule. Just the way it's being done most commonly on Wikipedia. And, certainly, if other editors prefer it without the date I will defer.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:48, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

E.M.Gregory, I am aware that the date-place format is becoming widespread due to terrorist attacks recurring at some locations several times. Applying that to situations such as this one, however, is not only against the accepted guidelines, but also purely misleading. The title 2016 Ohio State University attack implies that similar events took place in the previous years or in 2017. It prompts users to waste time looking up such events, only to realize that there weren't any. Worse yet, it might then imply that future attacks at Ohio State University are expected, which is distasteful and even morbid. I have requested a similar move at Talk:Manchester Arena bombing#Requested move 3 October 2017, where you can find a more detailed explanation. If need be, I will request the move and more or less copy the rationale, as it applies to this case too. Surtsicna (talk) 15:38, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Redirect categorisation

The redirect Abdul Razak Ali Artan, which points to this article, is in Category:African Americans shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States. At CfD recently there was a consensus to move some articles in that category to a new category, Category:African people shot dead by law enforcement officers in the United States. For categorisation purposes is Artan, who was born in Africa but became a legal permanent resident of the U.S., an African American, an African person, or both? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 16:49, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 7 February 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. It is clear that these moves should be treated and discussed individually, rather than as a group, particularly when one of them has already seen consensus for the current name at a recent RM.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:37, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

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• Ohio State University attack → 2016 Ohio State University attack
• Ibar Highway assassination attempt → 1999 Ibar Highway assassination attempt
• Lyon synagogue attack → 2002 Lyon synagogue attack
• Glasgow Airport attack → 2007 Glasgow Airport attack
• Lakhimpur Kheri violence → 2021 Lakhimpur Kheri violence

– The naming convention in use for incidents (including terrorist attacks) is WP:NCEVENTS, which requires in the majority of cases to indicate in the title when the incident happened. Adding the date would also make the title WP:CONSISTENT with the majority of other vehicle-ramming attacks. See this comprehensive list of vehicle-ramming attacks. Pilaz (talk) 22:17, 7 February 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 07:00, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom, per WP:NCEVENTS etc. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:47, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose for Lakhimpur Kheri violence. Neutral for others. These deserve to be taken on a case by case basis. This is a very notable event and only one of it kind. The qualifier year is unnecessary in this case. Moreover Talk:Lakhimpur_Kheri_violence#Requested_move_13_October_2021 had a consensus for the existing title. The proposed title is unnecessary. Venkat TL (talk) 06:04, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
  • Consensus can change. Also, not explaining why or how it's unnecessary makes this whole argument an illustration of WP:UNNECESSARY. Pilaz (talk) 16:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Per nom, NCEVENTS applies in all cases. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 13:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Oppose for all of those. This is a simply unnecessary move a these incidents were always the only such attack in their area. The resulting moves would provide no benefits whatsoever. Dunutubble (talk) 02:54, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

I mean, one could easily argue that having some sort of indication in the title of WHAT YEAR these incidents occurred might be helpful — it's not like there's "NO benefits whatsoever". Paintspot Infez (talk) 22:57, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.