Talk:One Piece season 1

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migrate episode data and references to wikidata[edit]

Is it OK to migrate data and references for all episodes to wikidata, for example, One Piece episode 1 in wikidata? This will make it be harder to monitor or watch the changes? As the episode list data will be broken into many items/pages in wikidata. --Ans (talk) 05:38, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 18 January 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 11:53, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: One Piece (season 5) is still designated as a featured list. I don't feel that I have the authority, nor desire, to remove the designation from the article, despite it no longer being categorised as a list. I'll leave it up to a passing administrator to decide. SITH (talk) 12:25, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


– These articles seem to have enough content to justify standalone "season" articles (i.e. they contain more content than just a simple "episodes list"), and so should be moved to correct the disambiguation for season articles as per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Season articles. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:51, 18 January 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 22:57, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • The problem is that this show doesn't actually really have seasons. Anime often doesn't. The season naming is mostly for the sake of convinience.★Trekker (talk) 15:57, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • No matter what, the current articles are misnamed. Either they should all be merged back to a central article – either One Piece (TV series) or List of One Piece episodes or something – or they should be moved as proposed. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Trying to merge this into a single article would be beyond a disaster. Long anime series are almost always split up like this because they have so many episodes that trying to have them in one list would be impossible. If you have an overall issue with this I would recoment taking it up with the anime and manga project.★Trekker (talk) 18:42, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Nah. Based on what you're saying, I see no reason not to just move the articles as proposed. Whether or not there are "seasons" in the way U.S., etc. TV shows have them, these articles are organized along those lines, so the only issue is naming them correctly under WP:NCTV. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:32, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
          • No, wrong. Japanese tv anime like One Piece do not actually have season.★Trekker (talk) 20:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
            • That's irrelevant. It's how the articles are organized now. So this is simply a naming problem. If you want to reorganize them along other lines, that's a much larger conversation that can be held later. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
              • Wrong again. This is not a case by case thing, if you want to have this move you have to take the entire thing into consideration. And again, maving it to just seasons would make it even more confusing and incorrect than it already is, not to mention these lists are mostly lists. Not articles with wide coverage.★Trekker (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
                • If you believe that, then the correct course of action is to propose merging the separate episode lists back to the various LoE articles (there are currently 3 separate LoE articles, so merging them back will not be a "disaster"). But as these articles seem to contain more content than just simple episode lists, then they are bona fide "season articles" and need to be moved as proposed. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
                  • You can do that if you feel like it. Changing this is not something I want to do. It's fine the way it is.★Trekker (talk) 01:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • No need to perform article move. One Piece is the original name of the anime. List of One Piece episodes (season 1) name signifies that the article contains list and information of season 1 episodes. But if you change name, it may conflict with original aricle. So no need to change name. Masum Reza (talk) 21:13, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • How would it?! One Piece (TV series) isn't even an article yet (though I've proposed that it be split out...). And, regardless, the current naming scheme is wrong under WP:NCTV. No valid rationale for ignoring WP:NCTV has yet been offered here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • It has. You're just ignoring it. This show does not actually have seasons. The guidelines clearly are worthless if they don't even take that into account. Not all series are seasonal.★Trekker (talk) 01:24, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • @*Treker: If the show doesn't have seasons, then these articles are all completely misnamed right now – so what should we move them to?!... You can't say, "Oh, this show doesn't really have seasons...", and then "oppose" a move – if my proposal is "wrong", then what is the "correct" proposal?! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
          • I've sort of stumbled here while looking for something else but I thought I'd chime in. As the show isn't officially split into seasons when it airs WP:NCTV Season Articles doesn't apply completely. It's closer to WP:NCTV List Articles and based on WP:NCLL, I'd keep it simple and just propose that a appropriate number is picked and it's broken into blocks of that eg. 20's (List of One Piece Episodes (1-20) etc). If people are set on sticking with seasons, then you can potentially base it off the Japanese DVD releases but they don't appear to reference "Seasons" on the boxes anywhere unlike other region releases (which then vary between "Season", "Collection", "Voyage") so I don't think it's the ideal method. So technically I would oppose this specific change but only on the basis it needs to be fixed in a different way. CrimsonFox talk 10:45, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The articles themselves talk about each one being a "season" multiple times and the current article title has "season" in it, so arguing that "anime series don't have seasons" is a very strange and null argument. WP:NCTV guideline clearly explains that the article should be at the base name and also explains how season articles are named. The style of List of One Piece episodes (season 1) is not it. Since these are basically a season article, detailing the season information and also using a season infobox, the proposal is the only correct option. --Gonnym (talk) 00:11, 19 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • False, anime series like One Piece does not have seasons. Your argument makes zero sense. Just because a Wikipedia article states it does that doesn't mean it's reality.★Trekker (talk) 01:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Treker's concerns. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC) Changing to Support per comments below. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:43, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • See above: if the show doesn't have "seasons", then what should these articles be named?! Because the current names are wrong no matter what. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do agree with the objections that these should probably not be considered seasons. But to rearrange them in a more logical fashion (with titles by year? by arc?) would require a lot of additional work beyond simple renaming. Another option might be to rename based upon the episodes found in the current articles, mostly per Crimsonfox, and retain the "list" naming; the irregular number of episodes per list could then be fixed later on. Dekimasuよ! 19:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: For those who are unfamiliar, there was a relevant discussion on how we should organize the seasons back in 2008 and since then, we have used Toei's season numberings. The discussion can be found here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks. This is helpful, but I don't find the current setup very intuitive for readers. Dekimasuよ! 01:25, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. The inclusion of seasons in the title is no more an objection to the proposed titles than it is an objection to the current titles - tangential to the proposal. I don't see any better alternatives being proposed anyway. --В²C ☎ 00:34, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for consistency with other season articles. Rreagan007 (talk) 00:21, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: per nom and WP:NCTV. - Brojam (talk) 21:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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