Talk:Ontario Highway 11

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Refs[edit]

  • Latchford Bridge failure [1]
  • Commitment to four lane Huntsville to North Bay in 7 years, list of projects [2]
  • Expansion east of Thunder Bay [3]
  • Completed section Trout Creek to South River, October 29, 2004 [4]

-- ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 14:23, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some years for four-lane expansion between Huntsville and North Bay [5]

-- Floydian τ ¢ 05:09, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thunder Bay to Nipigon[edit]

  • Hodder Avenue to east of Highway 527 (3.8 km)
    • $42 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced spring 2009, construction began in August 2010.[1]
    • Westbound lanes opened weekend of August 6/7, 2011.[2]
    • Completed August 17, 2012.[3]
  • East of Highway 527 to Mackenzie River (13 km)
    • $46 million contract to Aecon Construction announced April 2010. Construction began later that year.[4]
    • Completed week of September 29, 2014.[5]
  • Mackenzie River to Birch Beach Road (13.4 km)
  • Birch Beach Road to Highway 587/Pass Lake (6.6 km)
    • $32.7 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced June 10, 2015.[7]
    • Construction began October 2015.[8]
    • Completed September 1, 2017.[9][10]
  • Highway 587/Pass Lake to Pearl Lake (14.4 km)
    • $107 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced April 9, 2022. Construction to start in fall. To be completed in 2026.[11]
  • Pearl Lake to Mouinette (7.6 km)
    • In detailed design phase.
  • Mouinette to Dorion (8.6 km)
    • $71 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced December 8, 2020. Construction started end of November 2020. To be completed in September 2023.[12]
    • 4.5 km on new alignment, remaining 4.1 kilometres are twinning of the existing highway.[12]
    • 4 km of eastbound lanes opened from Ouimet Canyon Road to Superior Shores Road on July 11, 2022, remainder of eastbound lanes from Ouimet Canyon Road to Dorion Loop Road to open in fall, westbound lane of whole 8.6 km section from Mouimette to Dorion to open September 2023.[13]
  • Dorion to east junction of Highway 582 (6.5 km)
    • In detailed design phase.[3]
  • Highway 582 to Coughlin Road (6.5 km)
    • In detailed design phase.[3]
  • Coughlin Road to Red Rock Road No 9 (5 km)
    • In detailed design phase.[3]
  • Red Rock Rd No. 9 to Stillwater Creek (10.1 km)
    • $84.8 million contract awarded to Teranorth Construction announced June 10, 2015.Cite error: The opening <ref> tag is malformed or has a bad name (see the help page).
    • Construction began June 2015.[8]
    • Completed in September 2019.[10]
  • Stillwater Creek to First Street (4.2)
    • In detailed design phase.[8]
  • Nipigon River Bridge and approaches (2.8 km)
    • Construction began June 2013.[8]
    • Bridge completed to four lanes on November 23, 2018.[14]
    • Completed in 2019.[3]

Floydian τ ¢ 22:05, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Staff (August 17, 2012). "Open for business: MTO opens new section of divided highway". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 3, 2022.
  2. ^ Staff (August 9, 2011). "New highway lanes opened near Terry Fox Lookout". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 3, 2022.
  3. ^ a b c d e f "Current Status of Hwy 11/17 Four Laning - Thunder Bay to Nipigon". Highway 11/17 Four-Laning from Pearl Lake, Easterly to 2.8 km West of CPR Overhead at Ouimet Class Environmental Assessment (Class EA) Study: Online Public Information Centre #1 (PDF) (Report). WSP Global. July 2021. p. 8. Retrieved September 3, 2022.
  4. ^ Staff (November 16, 2012). "New highway four-laning contract awarded". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 4, 2022.
  5. ^ Murray, James (September 29, 2014). "More Twinned Highway Near Nipigon". Net News Ledger.
  6. ^ "Hwy 11-17 speeds to stay at 90 km/hr". CBC News. July 31, 2013. Retrieved September 4, 2022.
  7. ^ Paradis, Scott (June 10, 2015). "Contracts worth $120M for highway four-laning awarded". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 4, 2022.
  8. ^ a b c d "Ontario Liberals update progress on Hwy 11/17 four-laning project". CBC News. August 11, 2017. Retrieved September 4, 2022.
  9. ^ Vis, Matt (August 11, 2017). "Highway twinning nears milestone". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 4, 2022.
  10. ^ a b "Teranorth Completed Projects". Teranorth Construction. February 10, 2022. Retrieved September 4, 2022. 2014-6018 Hwy 11/17 - Four-Laning Pass Lake Design Build Ministry of Transportation $32,729,000.00 9/1/2017
  11. ^ Hardy, Justin (April 9, 2022). "Ontario announces $107 million contract for highway twinning project". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 3, 2022.
  12. ^ a b Staff (December 8, 2020). "A new Highway 11-17 twinning project begins". TBNewsWatch.com. Retrieved September 3, 2022.
  13. ^ TBnewsWatch.com Staff (July 8, 2022). "Section of four-laned Highway 11-17 is set to open near Thunder Bay". Northern Ontario Business. Retrieved September 3, 2022.
  14. ^ "Nipigon Bridge finally opens to four lanes". Northern Ontario Business. Vol. 39, no. 3. January 2019. p. 3. ProQuest 2172620620 (subscription required).

"Annual Average Daily Traffic (AADT) counts"[edit]

This[6] source doesn't actually point to a document, it points to a page where two different documents can be downloaded. Neither appear to support most of what is sourced to it. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:41, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well it does, you just don't know what to look for. These tables include traffic counts for each segment of the road, from which the highest and lowest traffic counts can be taken. Admittedly, that's an out of date document (2016 is the current version). In the second link, Highway 11 is PDF pages 15 through 19. - Floydian τ ¢ 00:50, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But which of the two documents is the one being cited? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:56, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The website itself is, it has a dropdown box. All 3 are the same document, just sorted/filtered. - Floydian τ ¢ 00:58, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
But the url actually needs to go to the exact webpage which supports the citation. Just FYI almost none of what is currently sourced to it is supported by pages 15 through 19, we're using this as a complex narrative source for things besides traffic counts. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Where? I use it to cite distances and intersections. The maps that cite the description are perfectly acceptable to use to describe the geometry of linear features. Also it does go to the webpge which supports the citation, you're just either incompetent or desperately grasping at straws. - Floydian τ ¢ 01:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
For me it takes clicks to access the data, how do you get them without clicking through to another page? The entire "Major intersections" section is sourced to it alone. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You select 11 from the drop down and navigate it section by section... or you open the pdf which conveniently presents it on a single page. Are you browsing with a Commodore 64, or is your mouse too sticky? And yes, the major intersections are sourced to a document that, by golly, lists the intersections along the route! I've used editorial discretion to remove certain entries that are either not intersections, or are minor lot roads. If that's a problem, I suggest an RfC at WP:LISTS. - Floydian τ ¢ 01:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Mouse? Haven't used one of those in years. Where are you seeing anything which would support the notes section? For example: "North end of Highway 65 concurrency; north end of tri-Town Bypass; formerly Highway 11B south" Horse Eye's Back (talk) 01:47, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The concurrency is mentioned (probably under Highway 65), as is Tri-Town Bypass and 11B. Admittedly, those notes could use an extra ref (hence the GAN). Do you have anything of substance to claim, or can I start ignoring this as circuitous, pointy, and WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT? - Floydian τ ¢ 02:32, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any concurrencies mentioned under Highway 65. Glad we agree that the notes are OR. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 04:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"N JCT HWY 65 AND HWY 11 OVERLAP - HWY 11 S JCT HWY 65 AND HWY 11 2.7km". The notes aren't OR, they don't have a proper reference. Learn the fucking difference. - Floydian τ ¢ 04:18, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh there it is, I was looking for concurrency not overlap. You're right, most do appear to conceivably be verifiable. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 04:36, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. ~Asheiou (talk) (they/them) 21:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Asheiou (talk · contribs) 18:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

At a cursory glance, citations seem regular and to back up facts, there aren't any banners or noteworthy inline tags. The article contains a lot of detail about the topic to which it pertains and appears to provide a comprehensive overview.
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    The prose is concise, grammar and spelling are to a high standard besides a few superficial errors I have corrected, and the article is overall easy-to-read and understandable.
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    This article does not cover fiction, the lead section is perhaps a bit long but absolutely passable, word choice is acceptable. Lists and layout are also appropriate.
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    All 145 references are listed at the bottom of the page.
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    The vast majority of sources listed are indisputably reliable. There are some links to Google Maps, which are perhaps not ideal by themselves, but are consistent in their information with other sources. There was one dead source I came across, but I have linked in an archive.
    c. (OR):
    No original research is cited. Of the citations I checked, all back up the article.
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
    After a manual check as well as using https://copyvios.toolforge.org, I cannot find any evidence of WP:COPYVIO or WP:PLAGIARISM.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    The article covers the history, route, and future of the road in great detail, not straying from that topic.
    b. (focused):
    The article is concise while providing a lot of relevant detail. There are not any tangents that I can see.
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
    Nothing here violates WP:NPOV. The article doesn't touch on controversial issues, and certainly doesn't pick a side in any.
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
    I can't see any recent edit wars at all, seems to me like it's stable.
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    All images are clearly tagged as either CC or public domain. WP:AGF on the origins of the images, of course.
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    All media adds to the article and uses informative, concise descriptions.
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

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