Talk:Ontario Highway 78

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April 11, 2022	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 12, 2022.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the North Branch Bridge on Ontario Highway 78 partially collapsed just 17 days after a temporary bridge was opened to facilitate construction of a replacement?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 23:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that the Dundas Bridge on Ontario Highway 78 is not named after the controversial Henry Dundas?~~ Source: "Memorial to Dundas". The Windsor Star. Vol. 85, no. 119. January 21, 1961. p. 5. , Gough, David (July 20, 2021). "What's In A Name? Examining Wallaceburg's Dundas". CKXS 99.1. Retrieved January 22, 2022.
ALT1 ... that the North Branch Bridge on Ontario Highway 78 partially collapsed just 17 days after a temporary bridge was opened to facilitate construction of a replacement? Source: "Old Span Crumbles". The Windsor Star. Vol. 84, no. 31. April 5, 196. p. 5. Retrieved January 30, 2022.
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- Comment: There's probably a better way to word the hook, open to suggestions. In Ontario there are dozens of Dundas Streets and even a town named Dundas, all of which are named for anti-abolitionist (or at least delayer) Henry Dundas. Over the past 18 months there have been numerous calls to remove his name; in Toronto a major downtown road is to be renamed this year... so I figure "controversial" is an apt word in this instance.

Created by Floydian (talk). Self-nominated at 17:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

This is more of a comment than a review, but I'm not really sure if this hook is working out. Dundas doesn't seem to be a well-known name outside of Canada, and so I'm not sure if the hook would appeal to a broad audience without additional context about him. Do you have any possible suggestions for hooks that don't involve him? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added an ALT, though I may not have worded it the best. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 23:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The two hooks proposed both seem to be about bridges and say nothing about the highway itself. Would the nominator be interested in something like... "one-way travel on Ontario Highway 78 failed to alleviate traffic issues in Wallaceburg?" Flibirigit (talk) 18:58, 1 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The bridge is part of the highway for all intensive purposes, but I'm not opposed to your suggested hook. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 01:22, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - ?
Interesting: - ?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article was expanded from a redirect on January 18 and nominated within seven days. Length and sourcing are adequate. Article is neutral in tone. No plagiarism issues detected. Images used in the article are freely licensed on the Commons. QPQ requirement is complete. ALT0 is verified by the cited source and properly mentioned inline. However, I agree with the comment above that ALT0 would not likely be interesting to a broad audience since Henry Dundas is not a widely recognized name. ALT1 is slightly more interesting, but the wording in the hook "just 17 days after" is inconsistent with the wording in the article "Just two weeks later". This needs to be the same since it will appear to be an error. Flibirigit (talk) 01:46, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Proposing another hook below: Flibirigit (talk) 01:49, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ~~...that a change to one-way travel on Ontario Highway 78 failed to alleviate traffic issues?~~ [1][2]
- Works for me. For what its worth though, I've changed the article to state 17 days instead of two weeks. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 20:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Article now meets all DYK criteria. Approving ALT0 and ALT1, with a preference for ALT1. Flibirigit (talk) 20:52, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting second opinion on ALT2, since I cannot approve what I proposed. Flibirigit (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Re second-opinion request for ALT2: The citations check out, and the information appears in the article with citation. Although there's nothing wrong with ALT2, I prefer ALT1 because collapsing bridges are far more of a fascination to passing rubberneckers than one-way systems. Storye book (talk) 21:41, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is best to go with ALT1, and strike ALT0 and ALT2. Thanks for the second opinion. Flibirigit (talk) 19:51, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted ALT1 To Prep 6 Z1720 (talk) 23:31, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]