Talk:Orcus

A hairy, bearded giant

"He was portrayed in paintings in Etruscan tombs as a hairy, bearded giant." Wheres the source for this? I can't find anything to corroborate it.Lily20 (talk) 18:16, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Greek vs. Roman Aspects and Names

The statement that "Hades is the Greek equivalent of Pluto" that appears in the opening paragraph of this article is not consistent with the article to which it links on Pluto. Can someone with knowledge resolve this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asasa64 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I had that same complaint. The phrasing is misleading at best, incorrect at worst. Dis Pater and Pluto were BOTH Roman cthonic gods; Pluto just wound up being more popular, and his name was still derived from the Greek. All three of them were essentially analogous to the Greek cthonic god Hades. Sadly, the article is locked. 134.173.130.49 (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Pluto (Πλούτων) and Hades (Άδης) are the two ancient Greek names of the same God. So that sentence is not just inconsistent, it is simply wrong. By the fifth century BC, as Plato explains, the name "Pluto" was by far more popular than "Hades". So the sentence "Hades is the Greek equivalent of Pluto" does not make any sense. Ιt should be changed to "Pluto is the latinized form of Plouton (Πλούτων)". Stroumel (talk) 13:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I likewise concur; this sentence is not consistent with various other articles about Hades, Pluto, Orcus, and Dis Pater. These other articles have citations that support what Stroumel states just above. This sentence needs to be removed or rewritten by someone with permissions to do so. IChuck (talk) 07:00, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Any potential relation to Horus ?

The Greek word 'hórkos' (ὅρκος) means 'oath', therefore the name of the god Orcus, which as the article states was a punisher of broken oaths, most probably comes from that.

As for Horus, he was bound to be given false Greek etymologies by ancient philologists in the context of hellenistic Egypt, due to the similarity with a plethora of Greek words: 1) horó (ὁρῶ) - to see, look at. The Eye of Horus seems relevant here. 2) hóra (ὥρα): season, climate, year, hour. Horus was a god of the skies, the weather etc., and was called Hōros (Ὧρος), with an omega, by the Greeks. 3) hóros (ὅρος): limit, frontier, rule, standard, term, definition, goal, aim. 4) óros (ὄρος): mountain, probably deriving from the verb órnymi (ὄρνυμι) which means "I raise". All this is very tendential and I didn't have the time to do proper research, but I hope it was useful to the discussion. Yannis1975 (talk) 17:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Tolkein's Use of the Word Orc

If Tolkein, a man who was an expert philologist and passionate linguist, himself doubted the connection between the word "orco" that was his inspiration for orc, why is his statement of doubt evidence to support it? Shouldn't this evidence, at the very least suggest that the derivation of orco comes perhaps from a different source. Not sure how to fix this, but I am open to suggestions.138.226.68.12 (talk) 07:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2015

Orcus is the Egyptian god of death whereas Pluto is his Roman aspect. Hades is the Greek form. Please correct these issues. Sir Fanboy (talk) 18:55, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mlpearc (open channel) 21:58, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Also in Shin Megami Tensei

Horkos appears as a very important boss in the Nintendo DS cartridge for Shin Megami Tensei. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.167.2 (talk) 22:37, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

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Tolkien orc derivation

Tolkien's use of "orc" didn't come from Italian orco but from Old English "orcneas", found in Beowulf. Both trace to the Roman Orcus, but while orco meant an ogre-like creature, the conventional translation of orcneas is "living corpse".

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2022

The writings in the fresco of Odysseus are Etruscan, not Estonian. Probably because the language code is similar ('et' vs. 'ett') -- Anonymous 16:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Changes made, thank you! Fiwec81618 (talk) 19:14, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hades

Hades is not the name of the Greek underworld. The name of the underworld is Tartarus. 2600:387:0:9A2:0:0:0:28 (talk) 21:04, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Hades is most certainly a name for the Greek Underworld. Paul August ☎ 23:35, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Internal link

Land of the dead in Origins refers to George A. Romero's Land of the Dead. I don't think that that desirable, especially since there is already a reference to the Underworld in the same section. I'm mentioning this here, because I can't change it myself since the page is semi-protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:a457:558:1:6d84:f2b5:f8c:a088 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I've edited the article to remove the links to Land of the Dead. Paul August ☎ 01:27, 19 May 2022 (UTC)