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Cut back 2005 section[edit]

We may want to cut back the 2005 section to keep it roughly consistent in length with the rest of the article.--Aresef 21:50, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cut 2006 Artist Alley Controversy[edit]

I believe the 2006 Artist Alley controversy bit should be cut, along with the bit about Aramark, or at least worked into the rest of the 2006 section where it fits. In the grand scheme of things, they are rather minor issues that preceded the convention. That, and many of the worries within are moot points now. Feel free to revert if you'd like. I'm just trying to reduce the unnecessary clutter on the page.--Aresef 02:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References & original research[edit]

Would somebody explain the reasons behind the References and Original Research tags? Otherwise, I will end up deleting them Roninbk 17:27, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because the entire article contain a single reference (see reference section). Articles writen witout citing verifiable references is generally considred original research. --TheFarix (Talk) 21:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In its defense it had more links, but not in inline references. I went through and pulled out a few more references, and added some links to AnimeCons.com. --Roninbk t c e # 23:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History cleanup[edit]

I've tagged this section as needing some cleanup. It is starting to become too unwieldy with the year by year subsections, which encourages a lot of unnecessary cruft. Identifying particular phases—Early years, History at the BCC, etc—would be a much better approach. --TheFarix (Talk) 21:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I went through the entire article with a comb, rephrasing what was already there, killing as many weasels as I could, and standardizing each year's entry. The article is well under the 32KB barrier now. 2005 is still a huge entry, but I don't know what else to cut. --Roninbk t c e # 23:44, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for doing this, guys. Better that it primarily come from outside the org. Perhaps the answer for length is to further break out the article by years, or 5-year chunks? IE, Otakon 94-99, Otakon 2000-2005, etc, Otakorp, Inc., etc. -- keeping only the primary info links and consistent general info on the main page, and chunking out the prior year stuff as sub-entries.

I am glad to see the end of merely parrotting our web page's announcements directly into Wikipedia. Listing guests and major events is appropriate, though to be technically correct, you have several "guests" listed who are in fact panelists. I expect status of any future "invited individuals" to be clarified in the coming year. (-Jim Vowles, Chair 2006)

I appreciate the compliments. I culled the lists of guests from AnimeCons.com, you should probably contact them to clarify said status. --Roninbk t c e # 06:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Fixes[edit]

While the interview with Jim Vowles (external reference 16) is hosted at www.frontrowcrew.com/forum, the interview itself was conducted by GeekNights, the owners of the domain and administrators of that forum, for their talk show. 216.255.101.58 20:17, 31 October 2006 (UTC) Jhar (10/31/2006)[reply]


Don't forget the concert by larc~en~ciel in 2004 in the events section —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.59.198 (talk) 16:07, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still needing more sources[edit]

I've marked a number of statements that are uncited and really needs citations. I'm sure that there are some citations that will cover multiple statements in the same paragraph. In those cases, just but the citations at the end of the last relevant statement. Attempts should be made to find as many credible, third-party publications to use as sources because I would very much like to see this article put under peer review and eventually become a GAC. I will also say that much of the article still ready like an advert or a promotional piece. Such promotional languages should be removed. --TheFarix (Talk) 03:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

68.163.82.148 11:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC): I notice a "Citation Needed" for the Otakon DOOM mod. I was one of those 1,000 attendees at Otakon '96 and I played that mod extensively before and after the con. It was basically the Bubblegum Crisis DOOM mod packaged with a custom level that was laid out like the Marriott Hunt Valley Inn (although when I went to the real hotel I strangely couldn't find the secret passage leading to the reactor room...) How do I cite "I played the damn thing myself, there's no question it existed?"[reply]

Is there a Doom mod web site somewhere that has it for download? That could be a source, I guess. --PatrickD 17:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How about http://www.otakon.com/memoirs_1996.asp? It's Otakon's own site which mentions the DOOM mod. Or AnimeCons.com (http://www.animecons.com/events/info.shtml/342) or DOOM Wad Station (http://www.doomwadstation.com/main/otakon.html -- you can actually download the mod here)? (I have no idea what constitutes a proper site to cite on WikiPedia. 68.163.82.148 12:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Potential references[edit]

  • Duarte, Nicolas (2005). "Special Report: Otakon 2005 Club Summit". Newtype USA. 4 (11): 99. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
  • Lillard, Kevin (2006). "Con Report: Otakon". Newtype USA. 5 (10): 99. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

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Otakon 2007 section missing?[edit]

Where is the Otakon 2007 section for this article??? KSweeley 16:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone??? KSweeley 10:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Are there any third party sources currently available to right a section from? --Farix (Talk) 21:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I discovered the problem. When someone added a reference to the 2006 section, they left off a closing </ref> tag. It's fixed now. --Farix (Talk) 12:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Otakon '07 was important, one subject was the appearing of Linetrap, one of the most known memes in the actual web. Xopauxo wiki (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What the heck is Xopauxo talking about? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.48.240 (talk) 05:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Otakon/Otacon[edit]

God knows how many times this has been brought up, but I can only guess that I'm not the first, nor will be the last. Nonetheless, I'm still a bit unsure on how I feel about Otacon redirecting here. Considering the fact that the (code)name of the character uses an alternate spelling of Otakon that is intentionally reserved for that character, and the implication that most fans recognise this difference, I don't really agree with it; yet there must be a liable reason. I won't agree with arguments of "outsider's ignorance" or what have you. If that were the case, the MGS characters page would refer back here, instead of in this direction. How was this issue dealt with before, or has it even been an issue in the past? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.84.89.90 (talk) 03:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The character of Otacon is actually named after the convention -- this is noted in several earlier games. Konami uses the name with permission so long as they put a notice in the credits. If you look at Otakon's program book, the credits list Dr Hal Emmerich as the scientific advisor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.48.240 (talk) 05:26, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ugrade article standards[edit]

As an Otakon staffer and an enthusiastic Wikipedian (as well as for WP:WikiProjects), I strongly recommend that this article do what it can to reach B-class. That would mean more REAL information, with citations included, and less speculation, which takes up far too much room and should probably be deleted. As noted above, this article fails on referencing and citation as well as coverage and accuracy. Much, much more could be said about the actual programming, and the question must be addressed in the article: what makes Otakon different from other anime conventions? So, pretty much all of future expansion could be deleted, we need a lot more outside sourcing, and some information on past events, especially 2010, would be great as well. We can do it everyone! Adavis444 (talk) 11:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Future Expansion section unfit for Wikipedia[edit]

I did not want to delete all of the material in the "Future Expansion" so I first moved the idea of a four-day convention to history, referring to 2005, and I made sure to include the 1st Mariner Arena in the "Facilities Section". As for the rest, I left it as a <!--comment--> with some comments of my own, which are as follows:

This all seems to be mere speculation of something that hasn't been brought up in Otakorp discussions to which I have been party too (staff member, attended meetings in 2010). I'll leave the whole section as a comment for now, but it should perhaps be deleted in the future at the discretion of other editors. Please keep in mind the Wikipedia:Five pillars (I am a WikiKnight you know), most notably the first, that Wikipedia:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as according to the second point and the tenth point, WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR UNVERIFIABLE MATERIAL and WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR UNVERIFIABLE MATERIAL.

So, I will leave the section as is until someone either makes the section more appropriate for an encyclopedia or deletes it altogether. Please leave comments.

Adavis444 (talk) 05:08, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Info Box revert[edit]

I added that Otakon will be moving to Washington D.C. to the Walter E. Washington Convention Center in 2017 until at least 2021 in the info box and it was reverted and just want to know the reasoning behind waiting until the convention actually moves. It's confirmed and a done deal between Otakon/Otakorp and Washington D.C. so why can't it be listed in the info box? KSweeley (talk) 21:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's still a Baltimore convention until 2017. Wait until after the convention in 2016 before changing it. I agree with the reversion. --PatrickD (talk) 22:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Otakon 2013 - 20th Anniversary[edit]

Who changed my edit for Otakon 2013 under "Event History" from "Otakon's 20th Anniversary" to "Otakon's 20th Year"? I'm on staff for Otakon and I received in 2013, a staff shirt that says on the reverse side "Otakon Staff 20th Anniversary." I can take a picture of my Otakon 2013 staff shirt as evidence. KSweeley (talk) 04:02, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

IP editor did with this note "As repeatedly pointed out on official channels, this was our 20th YEAR, our 20th CONVENTION -- the 20th anniversary will be the folllowing year." Esw01407 (talk) 11:37, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This seems a bit off, if Otakon celebrated 2013 as their 20th anv then why the reword? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's like your birthday. Your first birthday you are technically zero years old. When you are one year old, it's your second birthday. When you are two it's your third birthday and so on. In this case, the first Anniversary would be the second Otakon. Second Anniversary is the third Otakon and soforth. Go all the way up and the 19th Anniversary is the 20th Otakon. Zero Serenity (talk) 19:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have a citation that says "Otakon marked its 20th anniversary in Baltimore, Aug. 9-11, 2013", that quote can be found here: http://washington.org/press/otakon-selects-washington-dc-future-site-five-consecutive-conventions can I put that Otakon 2013 was "Otakon's 20th Anniversary" if I cite that article? KSweeley (talk) 00:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reference fix[edit]

Could someone fix the "OfficialOtakonAttendance" citation? I somehow broke it by adding it to my most recent edits in the "Event History" table. Here's the link to the cited information: http://www.otakon.com/history_stats.asp Thanks!!! KSweeley (talk) 07:44, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I fixed what was wrong. KSweeley (talk) 07:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CHB[edit]

I'm in Con feedback and the president of Otakorp broke news about legal action against Studio Nasu. This is a note to fix the section. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 19:57, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Event history[edit]

This section is becoming very large and I feel it could benefit from a split here either that or trim down (Do we really need details like "Lowest Discounted Membership Fee"?). I have tagged the section as the entire section is from the official source which can be seen as promotional. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:20, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would support the removal of the Growth, Lowest Discounted Membership Fee, Full Membership Fee, Staff Attendance, Dealers Attendance, and Artist Attendance as I'm not sure it's useful information. Attendance (Estimated Turnstile) might also not be necessary as most other anime conventions report either warm bodies or paid attendance. The amount of Primary Source content directly from Otakon's site is also concerning. Esw01407 (talk) 02:47, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I like how Anime Boston is for example it is short but explains enough so that it is not promotional. I will go ahead and shorten the table here soon if nobody objects to it. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Massive rewrite of article, venue issue.[edit]

Hi,

I've noticed the article for Otakon has been significantly rewritten.

The 2017 venue of the Marriott Marquis Washington D.C. hotel got removed but it was used for Otakon 2017 in addition to the Walter E. Washington Convention Center: https://www.otakon.com/info/location/

KSweeley (talk) 15:27, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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