Talk:Otto Pérez Molina

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In the introduction, the concluding sentence is "During his presidency, amongst his activites was a controversial call for the legalistion of drugs."

This is not a very good way to wrap up the introduction section on a current head of state. His stances on different issues do not belong in the introduction.

In the Accusations section, the second sentence reads "American journalist Francisco Goldman presents evidence that Pérez may have participated in the 1998 conspiracy to murder Juan José Gerardi Conedera..."

What does that mean? How can "evidence" show that someone "may have participated." Evidence is evidence. It either shows something or it doesn't. I just read the book, and while I saw Goldman accuse Pérez, I didn't see Goldman provide anything remotely close to "evidence." Such claims should provide page numbers to the original source (to the Goldman book). Instead, the cited document is an article in The Nation, in which the author says that the motivation behind pointing a finger at Pérez is to attempt to prevent Pérez's election, and that Goldman didn't attempt to interview Pérez about his accusations.

In the presidency section: "He also controversially proposed the legalisation of drugs as opposed to War on Drugs that is widely perceived as a failure."

More information is needed. To whom did he propose legalization? To the Guatemalan legislature? To the OAS? To the press? By whom is the War on Drugs "widely perceived as a failure"? This article doesn't seem like the place to discuss or argue the merits of the War on Drugs. If the article includes his position on this issue, it should state his reasoning, and when, why, and to whom he proposed it. The cited al Jazeera article only loosely connects Pérez to this position. Furthermore, al Jazeera is hardly a recognized expert on Latin America.

That's my two cents.--Lacarids (talk) 18:56, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've read Goldman, and essentially the "evidence" is that Perez Molina was allegedly seen with two other high-ranking officials at a nearby store/ bar on the night of the assassination. I live within blocks of this area and I can personally vouch that it would be unusual to see such high-ranking people at the sort of establishment in the neighborhood in question, despite the fact that it is also very close to P/M's place of work at the time (and, coincidentally, currently). But that's just a personal observation; though I consider this information to be very suspicious, it is at best a circumstantial case, and should be clearly explained as such if it is to meet the standards of WP:BLP. Lacarids, I suggest you make a WP:BOLD edit, if possible using a specific Goldman quote as a reference. Homunq (talk) 19:09, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:UNDUE[edit]

I feel that there is undue weight in the accusations sections in this article. Is there anyone who feels strongly about all of this? I'm willing to work things through. Cheers. ComputerJA (talk) 18:41, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Gerardi accusations probably don't pass BLP; the "evidence" is extremely circumstantial. However, the other two sections are backed up by strong evidence. I know wikipedia isn't based on primary sources like the video of the private with his boot on the corpses making obvious references to "the major" supervising torture, but we have secondary sources on this as well, and the level of evidence in that primary source which anyone can see on youtube is stronger than that in most war crimes convictions. The Bamaca case is also very much alive in the courts (though currently somewhat dormant). So, I'd object to cutting either of the non-Gerardi subsections to less than a paragraph. Homunq (࿓) 13:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

In some references he's Pérez, in others Molina. Which is it? Sca (talk) 14:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Both. Refer to Spanish naming customs. 187.237.14.247 (talk) 17:35, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Since this is English WP, suggest we settle on one, presumably Pérez, in order to avoid confusion. (However, I now see BBC is using both names in all references.) Sca (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Middle Name Sabotaged[edit]

I just changed two little bits of sabotage by someone posting from 164.58.172.153 ... they had changed "Fernando" in his name to "lalo", and then to "osman". Looks like just destructive playfulness. Might be worth looking at recent changes made by that IP. --Haruo (talk) 19:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Guatemalan peace accords PDF[edit]

The link to a PDF about the Guatemalan Peace Accords on the Notre Dame website in the intro paragraph doesn't work. FWIW. --Haruo (talk) 20:31, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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