Talk:Padraic McGuinness

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Proposed move[edit]

It was well known that his full name was Padraic Pearse McGuinness, and that his friends called him "Paddy", but nevertheless his byline was always just plain "P. P. McGuinness". He was never known as "Padraic McGuinness". If anyone took the trouble to spell out his name, they'd call him "Padraic Pearse McGuinness", not just "Padraic McGuinness".

Everyone knows that J. D. Salinger's full name is Jerome David Salinger, but his article is still "J. D. Salinger". Lots of similar examples.

I therefore propose this article be moved to "P. P. McGuinness". -- JackofOz (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be better to leave it where it is, and put in a re-direct page from PP McGuiness. Our subject was known by all three names. Also, using the initials may cause more confusion, as people type in full-stops or no full-stops or just spaces. There is already a redirect page for Paddy McGuinness. Lester 03:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of variants, in the mid-1960s, a Sydney newspaper reported Paddy's arrest for participating in a drunken party in The Domain. The name recorded in the subsequent court proceedings (and in the paper) was "Padlock Piss McGuinness". I cannot verify whether Paddy had whimsically misled the police or whether the cops were actually unable to spell the full name when pronounced by its "pissed" owner. At the arrest scene, a female "Push" associate had also seriously irked the constabulary by "taking the number" of a policewoman—quite literally—by ripping the badge from her tunic! Bjenks (talk) 08:26, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I support moving the article to Padlock Piss McGuinness.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Membership of CPA[edit]

In Sydney Push circles, it was well known that Paddy had been a member of the Communist Party of Australia from about age 14, as was his sister Judy who still lives to confirm the fact. This may well have had potential for embarrassment among his later silvertail career associations, and is perhaps carefully not mentioned in Damien Murphy's eloquent little obituary, but there are no grounds for writing that he was "never a communist", so I have removed that furphy from the article. Paddy once recounted an amusing little yarn about his interview in London for a job as economist for the Moscow Narodny Bank in London. When one of the bank's seniors asked for an opinion of the CPA, Paddy retorted that they were a bunch of f**wits. The red apparatchik confirmed that he and his colleagues had long held the same opinion. Paddy got the job and never looked back towards the left! Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 04:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A bunch of Soviet functionaries based in London had a strongly held opinion about the Communist Party of Australia??? Paddy was a man who argued that Christmas was the longest strike in world history and that whaling should be allowed based on the Melbourne-Hobart race. I don't think he was the most cogent logician, but then he was trained as an economist. According to his own account he donated blood for the Viet Cong. And then he got a job with a Soviet bank. (But everyone does that to get a start!!!!) How many Soviet banks were there??? Honestly the man was a joke from start to finish. He had zero credibility and was only used to advance the causes of people who were happy to employ misfit mercenaries.--Jack Upland (talk) 11:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Denigrated by Paul Keating?[edit]

Bit strong don't you think? Surely there is a less POVish word like "described"? Tigerman2005 (talk) 23:29, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like denigration to me.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sued by Ted Wheelwright ?[edit]

I've heard around the traps that Ted Wheelwright sued Padraic McGuinness. I've not been able to find any references to cases on Government websites. Maybe it was settled out of court. If it were true, it seems an interesting part of McGuinness' life - anyone know anything ? JohnAugust (talk) 22:55, 18 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Parnell Palme McGuinness[edit]

"Parnell" is after Charles Parnell, the great Irish politician who fought for home rule. I am guessing that "Palme" is after Olof Palme, the great Swedish Social Democrat who, after he became prime minister was assassinated. I have yet to verify this but place this note for all to see. Hedley 06:16, 5 October 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hfinger (talk • contribs)

It could be after R. Palme Dutt.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:51, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliography[edit]

I have commenced a Bibliography section:

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This is a work in progress; feel free to continue. Sunwin1960 (talk) 10:15, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]