Talk:Palawano language

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The online edition of the Ethnologue (linked to above) is my source for changes introduced in this edit; since the speaker number figures for the first two dialects are in perfect agreement with the Ethnologue, I have changed the undocumented "12,000" for the third dialect to the Ethnologue's "3,000", which is attributed to "1985 UBS", pesumably a United Bible Societies estimate, though I have yet to find a list of source abbreviations in the Ethnologue; in particular, "2000 WCD" would be worth deciphering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haruo (talk • contribs)

I am the primary translator for PSV (Southwestern Palawano). I actually speak that language fluently, and have been doing linguistic analysis and dictionary work there for over 25 years. I am currently working together with the Philippine Government's Commission on Philippine Languages in documentation and language promotion projects. Since I have lived there and worked among the Palawanos for over 25 years, I know the population figure of 3,000 to be completely inaccurate. It is based upon faulty surveys, as it is nearly impossible to get good data from an in-and-out survey. But since we live and work there, we have been able to accumulate better data in this regard. That is why I have changed the number here to 12,000, which is "documented" by myself. There are over 3,000 SW Palawanos within a few hours walk of our house! Over the full range of their geographic distribution, there are many thousands more. In addition, I know from personal experience and from interviewing hundreds of Palawanos and those nearby, such as Molbogs and Tagbanwas, that the three Palawano languages, along with Moblog, Tagbanwa, Batak, Bonggi, etc., are NOT "cognate," so have edited that as well. I am also in correspondence with the editors of the Ethnologue and they have gratefully accepted this data along with more accurate language border maps and boundary descriptions, but it will not appear on the on-line version of the Ethnologue until the timing coincides with the less-frequent hard copy version is published. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.84.185.22 (talk • contribs)

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@Austronesier: This page is starting to have content. I made a pronoun table and a comparative wordlist. Glennznl (talk) 12:17, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Glennznl: Yeah, looks good. Maybe you should move the phonology section up, after classification, to get a standard ordering. Reminds me, I should do more about the page Central Tagbanwa language, with a copy of Scebold (2003) staring at me from my shelf :) –Austronesier (talk) 12:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Austronesier: Sounds good. I just did the 2 Tagbanwa languages as well since my source for Palawano included those as well. Glennznl (talk) 13:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Austronesier: I emailed Catherine Young, who wrote a grammar on Palawano, to ask for materials since a lot is not available. She replied:

Your email has caused me/us to realise that the Grammar Essentials is, indeed, not posted on the SIL Philippines archives although there are other resources at that link. Perhaps you could check out these links for more PALAWANO:BROOKE’S POINT language resources:

https://philippines.sil.org/resources/search/language/plw?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=b939bf7808dee22ea2934d9b1b256d3340c681c8-1590373882-0-Aeh48Y-z-7vewJvUUKvXM5Zo-8wO6dFB5Tu4_XXRq8XRJwAtgYjfP5iuhahKe4VqBfQzSkRkvac0ICdtz75b_rRa_iIAcCvCM92dDc2WDSpNjAdIfiJIffqfw_-DRn2yeho7p0kMfGh0r_lBekMsMFdyC_csWLVK8UWg7TbOxE5eWUkrFxZiflmqgOTNn_7eMkK6M31M7ni1We1TKJyvN7236z9c1tcYZkijX-cTlES9E1_OBsIsHH7BFg2rHy5Oh-1kpCpirQ14RcuYKr9W82dWJ1URLSIf6xm99BFcuKCFJK5O9pylKK4oVEj7QRScfuUnxekZuXed0fGh9EEraqn2xXs7FA1nu7Hpy557htgLxRWl63TaclYJT4m1hQYBTw

https://www.webonary.org/palawanob/

https://www.ethnologue.com/language/plw

http://olac.ldc.upenn.edu/language/plw

I am working with the archivist to appropriately archive the papers and, when they are ready, I’ll be sure to give you the link.

I'll share the material with you when she shares it with me. Glennznl (talk) 23:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]