Talk:Peter Grimes

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Development of libretto?[edit]

Can anyone remember the magazine--I think it was the New Yorker but am not sure--that had an in-depth article on the development of Grimes's libretto a few years back? Unfortunately the New Yorker has only the more recent issues archived online. I really want to put a proper write-up on this--what we have right now is pretty superficial. But I can't find a reference to the article anywhere. Clues? Dybryd 02:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You probably found these also, but if not: [1], [2] Fireplace 02:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I had found the Alex Ross review but hadn't thought to look on Usenet. Vickers' changes would be good to mention on the page as well.
Dybryd 07:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Guardian article is tendentious and inaccurate. I have the source that the journalist cites--Humphrey Carpenter's biography--and the picture it paints of the libretto's development is very different from what the journalist suggests. I am inclined to rewrite this section using the bio, rather than this rather flippant article, as a source. Anybody mind? Dybryd 02:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I look forward to your re-write. Haiduc 12:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The troll is probably Primetime: see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Primetime. Nunquam Dormio (talk) 07:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music?[edit]

I think we need more info about the music of this opera in the article. Frigoris (talk) 05:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Poem or article?[edit]

According to the BBC documentary The Hidden Heart, it was an article by E. M. Forster about Crabbe that inspired Britten to write Peter Grimes, not the poem itself at first.--Hugh7 (talk) 22:32, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anomalies in the synopsis[edit]

In the pub scene in Act 1, we find "the fiery Methodist fisherman, Bob Boles, getting increasingly drunk and lecherous...." Really? Is this a joke? A Methodist drinking alcohol?

  • Yep - it's in the libretto. Presumably Montagu Slater was making a political point.

More significantly, Act 2 ends with Grimes putting to sea in his boat. Act 3 is described as happening in "the same [place], two days later". However, we are then told that “Grimes has returned after many days at sea.” HenryLarsen (talk) 13:49, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's a fair point, and down to an error in the synopsis. I've made a correction. Alfietucker (talk) 14:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First Performance?[edit]

Information here from The Royal Albert Hall says this was the London Premiere in 1945: http://catalogue.royalalberthall.com/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Performance&id=_Loniepogifiep ixo (talk) 15:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

According to that source, the "Four Sea Interludes" and "Passacaglia" appear to have been first performed in August 1945, yes.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]