Talk:Pilot (Twin Peaks)

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Genre[edit]

Is Twin Peaks really considered a crime show? The Twin Peaks main article says "Drama, Mystery, Suspense, Psychological thriller". This source also suggests "Mystery, Psychological Thriller, Surrealist Film". This same source also defines the crime genre as "A crime film is a type of film focusing on the lives of criminals.". I know these are simple sources, but I've seen this Pilot several times and I'm not sure "Crime" nails it specifically as crime deals with the criminals. Mystery would be more appropriate I think. Andrzejbanas (talk) 05:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's been three days with no reply, so I'll change the genre myself. If anyone has an problems with it, we can discuss it here again. Cheers! Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Pilot (Twin Peaks)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Hi. I will be reviewing your article for GA. I like to work collaboratively when I write articles, so my comments are made from my experience writing and reviewing articles for GA and FA. If you disagree with my suggestions, we can discuss alternatives. I'll make it clear if anything in the article must be changed in order to get to GA. I look forward to working with you! --Moni3 (talk) 18:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Please add more description about Laura Palmer to the plot and why it apparently shook the town when her body was found (i.e., her popularity, etc.)
What relation is Audrey Horne to Laura Palmer or the story so far?
What did Briggs get arrested for?
This is not clear: with nothing more than this image and a concept.
Working Your newspaper/magazine/journal articles should have page numbers or online links with retrieval dates. One or the other.

Because imdb is a user-generated site like Wikipedia, it is not a reliable source. Please substitute reliable sources for what imdb is citing. If you search and are unable to find them, I can assist with this.

Try the Peabody website. I found it there. --Moni3 (talk) 21:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Working I think a paragraph should be added that addresses Lynch's style. The weirdness of the series and some of the elements that recur in his work, like music, lighting, and sounds. This, I believe, was a significant factor in why it was so intriguing. For example, Lynch puts very dark material in his work, yet Cooper (speaking as Lynch does) has this "Gee whiz, great cup of joe" Eagle Scout way of speaking. Lynch actually described himself once with "Eagle Scout, Missoula, Montana". How was it so "radically different", as Paul Schulman said? Lynch is famous for putting "wtf was that?" kind of stuff in front of the viewer. Some of these issues will be addressed more in depth in books or film journals. Again, I can assist with the journal article stuff if you are unable to find material. (I wrote the article for Mulholland. Dr..)

Watch for overlinking. Link a term once in the article only. I see double or triple links for some.
Done Is this a typo? the American pilot was not released for the United States home video market 99 until 2007 What does the 99 mean?

Let me know if I need to clarify anything. Thanks. --Moni3 (talk) 19:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Anything else you need to see done Moni? Looks like he fixed up at least a good amount of these weeks ago. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reminder. Let me take a look at it. Have a TFA today, so may have to do it tomorrow. --Moni3 (talk) 17:18, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Checking over the aspects of the article I asked to be changed, most of them have not been completed. I will leave a message on TIAYN's talk page and if no response in 24 hours, or a response indicating changes cannot be made in 24 hours, I will conclude the review. Just for the article's reference, the following should be addressed:

Please add more description about Laura Palmer to the plot and why it apparently shook the town when her body was found (i.e., her popularity, etc.)
What relation is Audrey Horne to Laura Palmer or the story so far?
What did Briggs get arrested for?
This is not clear: with nothing more than this image and a concept.
I think a paragraph should be added that addresses Lynch's style.
Your newspaper/magazine/journal articles should have page numbers or online links with retrieval dates. One or the other. Because imdb is a user-generated site like Wikipedia, it is not a reliable source. Please substitute reliable sources for what imdb is citing. I'm going to include Movieweb to this. --Moni3 (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More than 24 hours, message left on TIAYN's talk page, no edits to article. GA review closed. --Moni3 (talk) 15:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]