Talk:Pit River

Cuts through the Cascades?

In working on making the Columbia River page ready for FA nomination the idea that only a few, perhaps three rivers "cut through" the Cascades has come up as wanting clarification (see talk page thread here: Talk:Columbia River#Removed text). It used to be that three Wikipedia pages said there were four rivers that cut through the Cascades--the Columbia, Fraser River, Pit River and the Klamath River. Skookum1 argued against the Fraser River being included since the Cascades end south of the Fraser. For a long time there were just three rivers said to cut through. Now the Klamath River page says it is "one of only a few" and that the others are the Columbia, Pit, Umpqua River, and Rogue River (Oregon). I don't think any of these pages provides a source for these sort of statements. In the past when the topic came up people argued by logic and looking at maps. But logic and maps only go so far. The Pit and Klamath at least seem logical to me. The Umpqua and Rogue don't as much--if they cut through the Cascades than doesn't the Skagit River also? Maybe the Willamette River too? In any case logic only gets you so far. In trying to get the Columbia River up to FA quality I wanted to source the claim but have been unable to find a source that says what rivers "cut through" (or breach, pass through, whatever) the Cascades. It is not hard to find sources that say the Klamath, Umpqua, and Rogue rivers originate in the Cascades though. To resolve this minor and nitpicky point I'm posting this question here: Can anyone find a good source to back up these kind of statements? Thanks. Pfly (talk) 20:50, 29 August 2009 (UTC)