Talk:Pomeranian Metropolitan Railway

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Clearification needed: is it about a company or about a rawilway line?[edit]

Polish Wikipedia article describes PKM as a company, yet this article seems to describe a railway line. A clarification is needed. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:45, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At this moment, it's a construction project building a railway line! The project is due to be completed either 30 June 2015, or perhaps some details such as governmental reviews are supposed to be completed 1 September 2015, and operation is scheduled to start on that date. Obviously when operation starts there will need to be an operator, but none of the sources that I have seen identify the operator.

My main sources are 'Rynek Kolejowy' and 'Kurier Kolejowy,' two publications covering Polish railways.

So my simple answer is that it's a railway line, and that for me is the interesting aspect of the project. The Pomeranian Voivodeship identifies itself as the driving force behind the project, but I doubt that it will be the operator.Prospero10 (talk) 16:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Prospero10: But pl wikipedia states "Pomorska Kolej Metropolitalna (PKM S.A.) - Spółka akcyjna", i.e. that it is a joint stock company. I.e. it is different from pl:Linia kolejowa nr 3, which is about a railway. In other words, we have to separate the topic of an organization (ex. PKP) from that about an infrastructure (rail transport in Poland). Pomorska Kolej Metropolitaln seems to be a company that is building the as-of-yet-unammed-line with as-of-yet-not-clear-start-and-end-destination. The article you wrote seems to be about that line (physical infrastructure), but the linked pl wiki seems to focus on the company. Both topics are notable, but they are not equivalent. Do you understand my confusion? (In case you speak Polish: artykul o linii kolejowj (tu) to nie to samo co artykul o operatorze (tam)). --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello [[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus] Yes, I do speak Polish. The article Pomorska Kolej Metropolitalna which I created is about the linia Kolejowa (railway line), not about the spólka akcyjna (company) which is building the line - I understand the distinction. In fact, until you pointed it out, I didn't know that the spólka akcyjna (company) existed. The Polish Wikipedia article is a good article, and it brings up another point: the operator of the PKM is to be selected by a bidding process (przetarg), so that if the selected operator is not Szybka Kolej Miejska (Tricity) which would be a natural but not necessary choice, but is instead a new operator who takes the name PKM, then PKM could refer to not two but three entities: (1) the railway line, (2) the company which is building the line, and (3) the operator (przewożnik). We shall see. Anyway, I am glad that I created the article. It is needed.Prospero10 (talk) 15:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Separate point: please do not re-name.[edit]

I hope that nobody re-names the article 'PKP Line No. 248.' This would be bureaucratically correct but uninformative. The name 'Pomorska Kolej Metropolitalna' conveys information, the name 'PKP Line No. 248' gives zero information. A similar re-naming was applied to Central Rail Line (Poland) (Centralna Magistrala Kolejowa) whose title told readers that it is perhaps the most important passenger rail line in Poland, and the article has been re-named 'PKP Line No. 4' which is utterly uninformative and meaningless. I plan to reverse this change if I can find out the necessary computer techniques. These editors seem not to realize that the purpose of Wikipedia is not to adhere to terminology of bureaucracy, but to provide information.Prospero10 (talk) 15:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]